Agreed. Kind of a bizarro thread.ConeFusion said:I read the whole thread, and I don't see a negative word about the Elise. Except that some would have prefered a Honda engine, which I agree with. They rag on SUV's, not the Elise.
GabbaGabbaHey said:Not sure why you mention the VW R32, is it even mentioned in this thread? Interestingly the R32 did gain 150 lb. when it added fed compliant bumpers over the European version. Thank your lucky stars that Lotus was able to get an exemption. I know my 89 GTI 16v loves its Euro bumpers Vs the big ole ones that came stock . BTW the Elise is getting lots of love on this thread at the Vortex
I think the R32 is cool for what it is ... a lux hatch with a cranking motor. Yes, it is much heavier than I would like, but it is a totally different animal than say a STI or Evo. I wouldn't kick it out of my driveway that's for sure. good comparison ...
Those 2.5mph bumpers will easily stop a Canyonero in it's tracks!Derek said:
They don't really say the Elise is bad, but they do say it's a death trap. Maybe it is... But I think all small cars are including the R32. Worst still the reasoning behind this thinking is that the bumper exemption makes it unsafe... Like 3 mph bumpers are gonna help if you get hit by a H2... Not!