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They seem to be under the impression that the bumper exemption makes the car unsafe, someone needs to tell those guys that's purely an insurance/cost to repair issue, my gosh.

I know a lot of big manufacturers are coming up with the prototype superlightweight cars but I don't think any of them will end up in production, I mean the vauxhall vx was built by Lotus.

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I read the whole thread, and I don't see a negative word about the Elise. Except that some would have prefered a Honda engine, which I agree with. They rag on SUV's, not the Elise.
 

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ConeFusion said:
I read the whole thread, and I don't see a negative word about the Elise. Except that some would have prefered a Honda engine, which I agree with. They rag on SUV's, not the Elise.
Agreed. Kind of a bizarro thread.
 

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There is one moron who implies that if you feel unsafe driving an Elise on the road with SUVs, it's your fault for not owning an SUV instead.
 

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Not sure why you mention the VW R32, is it even mentioned in this thread? Interestingly the R32 did gain 150 lb. when it added fed compliant bumpers over the European version. Thank your lucky stars that Lotus was able to get an exemption. I know my 89 GTI 16v loves its Euro bumpers Vs the big ole ones that came stock :). BTW the Elise is getting lots of love on this thread at the Vortex

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1239350

I think the R32 is cool for what it is ... a lux hatch with a cranking motor. Yes, it is much heavier than I would like, but it is a totally different animal than say a STI or Evo. I wouldn't kick it out of my driveway that's for sure. good comparison ...

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=871247
 

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GabbaGabbaHey said:
Not sure why you mention the VW R32, is it even mentioned in this thread? Interestingly the R32 did gain 150 lb. when it added fed compliant bumpers over the European version. Thank your lucky stars that Lotus was able to get an exemption. I know my 89 GTI 16v loves its Euro bumpers Vs the big ole ones that came stock :). BTW the Elise is getting lots of love on this thread at the Vortex

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1239350

I think the R32 is cool for what it is ... a lux hatch with a cranking motor. Yes, it is much heavier than I would like, but it is a totally different animal than say a STI or Evo. I wouldn't kick it out of my driveway that's for sure. good comparison ...

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=871247

I found this thread looking for R32 info. I think it was in the R32 section of the forum. I checked out an R32 at the auto show. I was thinking about one for a work car. They can be tuned to silly power. Think I like the STI more.

They don't really say the Elise is bad, but they do say it's a death trap. Maybe it is... But I think all small cars are including the R32. Worst still the reasoning behind this thinking is that the bumper exemption makes it unsafe... Like 3 mph bumpers are gonna help if you get hit by a H2... Not!
 

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Derek said:

They don't really say the Elise is bad, but they do say it's a death trap. Maybe it is... But I think all small cars are including the R32. Worst still the reasoning behind this thinking is that the bumper exemption makes it unsafe... Like 3 mph bumpers are gonna help if you get hit by a H2... Not!
Those 2.5mph bumpers will easily stop a Canyonero in it's tracks!

All I know is that if heaven forbid something does happen to me while driving the elise,at least I know I will have a huge ear-to-ear grin from driving the car. :p

It's a risk I don't mind taking, you have to live a little.
 
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