Ok so I was in this giant parking lot from a vacant horse track in Michigan this past weekend. I figure I would push a little bit to see at what point that it would be unsafe to "lift"... Ironically, I could not get it to oversteer at all. And honestly, I was turning much faster and in a tighter radius than what happened to me in the accident. Ok I know I could have gone alot tighter on the turns but I figure since I was purposely pushing harder then the previous time then it should have spun when I lifted, but it didnt. I think I was doing around 70 in 3rd gear trying to get it to spin. I know the main difference is that the shims were out on the other car. Is it that much of a difference? Do I need to be power sliding around a corner for lifting to be a threat? Anyway, I plan on doing some autox training. But I just figured that was a failed attempt on my own. I couldnt stay too long because technically there was no trespassing in that lot and I think I was starting to attract attention.