right around 1900 lbs.Just before I leave the garage : we got the new 111r on the scales. Almost empty fuel tank, softtop on, airco,..
862 kilos, front 323 kilos, rear 539 kg.
Nice weekend everyone
Tough call - Esp. as I wan't allowed to use full throttle or over 7k rpm.Originally posted by NoHair
which feals themore rapid on the road of the two 190 cars, yours verses the toyota???
Did you find the VVTi kick more violent @ 6.2k than the kick of your car from 5k? From your comments it has to be pretty harsh then as they have the same bhp, but yours is 200kg lighter.
Yep - driven the VXT. Another great car for the money (but I'm a rabid badge snob so not for me thanks!). Personally (turbo lag and VVTi timing issues aside) the VXT felt much quicker but the 111R doesn't drive like it's the same weight but a much lighter car. The refinement in the 111R is miles ahead of the VXT too.Have you test driven the VXT? Just curious as to which of the two will feel faster.
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Slow down there... Why did Lotus release the car first in the UK?James A said:Well if vague brakes are the only complaint, off they go, out goes the boost, out goes the ABS and on goes the AP four pot brakes!
Definately more violent. I never noticed it when driving a celica but the lightness of the elise makes it quite apparent - and this was only at 3/4 throttle. It's the closest thing I've seen to turbo lag without a turbo. [/B]
I just went out for a quick drive in B&C's 111R. The engine is much smoother than any K-series I've driven, even though it only had 140 miles on the clock. It pulls nicely from throughout the range, but once you get above 6000rpm it just goes mad! The car seems much quicker than any other Elise I've driven. It was clear that although I wasn't actually going faster than I would normally drive the engine had plenty of performance left. It even sounds quite good! The gearbox has a much better feel to it than the Rover unit, and the ratios seems to suite the car well.
As the brakes now have servos, I can imagine that stepping into the 111R from a normal Elise would feel a bit odd. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I've been driving my Pug for the last week so I was used to the extra travel the servos give. I'm no expert but to my mind for an ABS system the brakes felt great, not unlike a 996’s (well at least from what I remember), plus they certainly stop the car well.
As for the ride and handling, it felt much like any other S2 to me. The ride is harder than my S1 but the ride quality is much improved from what I'm used to. I've not really had enough experience in S2's to tell whether much has changed from them. I couldn’t notice the extra weight (the demo car has air-con and electric windows), though I guess a longer drive would be needed for any differences to be obvious.
Most of the time my S1 sounds like its shaking itself apart... The 111R was actually put together well... there were no rattles creaks, not like a real lotus at all! The boot floor is a bit higher than an S2, but I reckon it’s probably still bigger than an S1's.
The only things I didn't like were the look of the exhaust and the front access panels. The exhaust just looks wrong... they should really move it back to where it belongs. Hopefully some helpful aftermarket chaps will fix that at some point. The new front isn’t as obvious as I thought it would be, but I still prefer the old lines, its nothing I couldn't live with though. Oh, and they really should stop putting the nose badges on the back... the ‘L O T U S’ letters were much better looking (GJOB I know…).
Overall I walked away seriously impressed, to the point I came home to check my bank balance in case it had changed overnight. Unfortunately it hadn't