funny, 2 artic silvers came up at same time...both going for msrp...1 with no reserve at msrp and other hasnt met reserve but must be close cause he claimed bidding starts at msrp...both completely loaded...dont like color or would jump on it.
Finally, cars being sold at MSRP on Ebay!
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What's concerning is that the high number of cars available suggests that a fair number of people on the list were 'speculators.' Some may have been dealers that put ghost names on the list, some are individuals.
The premiums are minimal now, and falling. If there are still more speculators awaiting delivery (I suspect that there are quite a few), cars may be available below MSRP shortly. I guess a speculator who has not yet received the car can always back out of the deal and lose a deposit, so that puts a floor in at some point.
I was shopping around to get a car 'early' a few weeks ago, and made calls to several dealers. I've recieved quite a few calls from them lately, so there seem to be a good number of cars available for immediate delivery. I've already spec'd mine, so now I'll wait for MSRP.
The premiums are minimal now, and falling. If there are still more speculators awaiting delivery (I suspect that there are quite a few), cars may be available below MSRP shortly. I guess a speculator who has not yet received the car can always back out of the deal and lose a deposit, so that puts a floor in at some point.
I was shopping around to get a car 'early' a few weeks ago, and made calls to several dealers. I've recieved quite a few calls from them lately, so there seem to be a good number of cars available for immediate delivery. I've already spec'd mine, so now I'll wait for MSRP.
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Gang,
Not so sure about premiums in the spring. Another thread mentioned VIN #1,716 scheduled for delivery in February. Quick math would say there will be about 1,500 Elise in the US come March/April. This is a niche car. I would expect MSRP to be the norm until the end of next summer/fall, when supply & demand really meet and then sub-MSRP will be the norm. Just speculation - but this is what has happened in the past with hot cars (Miata, NSX, Viper, Prowler, Minis, etc.). Once production catches up the gap on hard core demand (us here on ET), there will be lots of used cars from speculators and owners moving on to compete with new cars.
Just my $.02 for what it's worth.
Chris
Not so sure about premiums in the spring. Another thread mentioned VIN #1,716 scheduled for delivery in February. Quick math would say there will be about 1,500 Elise in the US come March/April. This is a niche car. I would expect MSRP to be the norm until the end of next summer/fall, when supply & demand really meet and then sub-MSRP will be the norm. Just speculation - but this is what has happened in the past with hot cars (Miata, NSX, Viper, Prowler, Minis, etc.). Once production catches up the gap on hard core demand (us here on ET), there will be lots of used cars from speculators and owners moving on to compete with new cars.
Just my $.02 for what it's worth.
Chris
agree with Chris, I think this car behave similar to other previous "hot" cars....by next spring/summer, I doubt anybody will pay msrp for a used car and premiums will be a done deal...as you can tell, alot of people were either speculators or didnt know what they were buying.
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That's right. The first 600 or so were US only, then it switched to include the ROW (when the ROW shifted from 2004 to the 2005 model year). By Feb, if 600 plus another 550 (half of the 1,716) come in, that makes about 1,150 in the US by February. This assumes 50% of production is coming to US (read elsewhere). If we are at 1,150 in Feb, we should be at 1,500+/- by March/April. This is obviously back-of-the-envelope, but you get the point.
Hope this makes sense, I'm tired!
Chris
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