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Hey everyone,

I bled the clutch and brakes this weekend. I've done this before but this is the first time bleeding the clutch. Everything seems fine. except the clutch.

I have a firm (normal) brake pedal. I have a totally dead clutch pedal.

I pumped the clutch several times but it doesn't firm up at all.

Any ideas?

My next step is to add more fluid is to redo the clutch bleed. After that, I'm stumped.

Thanks for the help, I have a bunch of track days coming up in a week.

Cheers,
 

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This happened to me a month ago. After bleeding everything I double-checked the nipple on the clutch to see if it was tight. Well I turned it the wrong way and a little fluid came out. Sure enough the pedal went right to the floor, nothing. I hooked up my Motive pressure bleeder again and just bled the clutch only. This time I made sure everything was tight. Got back in the car and the clutch was fine. So my answer is just re-do the clutch only making sure of no leaks. Hope this helps and good luck, Adam.
 

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Yup, you got some air when you were bleeding. It's surprisingly easy to do since the line going to the clutch is about halfway up the reservoir. I did the same thing last weekend. Bleed it some more and it should firm right up.
 

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I just had the same experience this past weekend when using my Motive bleeder for the firs time. I just had to bleed the clutch one more time; a TON of air came out. The brakes were fine with just one bleed.

I couldn't believe how easy the Motive unit made the job. It's possibly one the best tools I've ever bought in terms of reduced labor.
 

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I too have a motive. They are totally worth the money. I will say though, that it can be tough to get the right adapter (for the Lotus you want model 100). I even called the office and asked them (Dodge Dakota) and they still sent the wrong one. Not happy about that, but such is life. I'm sure they will work with me. Seemed like a totally cool group of people.

I'm about to put the car up on the jack stands (have a mentioned how much I want a 4-post lift?) and get this clutch thing done.

cheers,

Trevor
 

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I too have a motive. They are totally worth the money. I will say though, that it can be tough to get the right adapter (for the Lotus you want model 100). I even called the office and asked them (Dodge Dakota) and they still sent the wrong one. Not happy about that, but such is life. I'm sure they will work with me. Seemed like a totally cool group of people.

I'm about to put the car up on the jack stands (have a mentioned how much I want a 4-post lift?) and get this clutch thing done.

cheers,

Trevor
Trevor,

Stands, not ramps? I find the latter much easier.

Tap the cylinder to release the air bubbles that cling to the metal right before opening bleed screw.

BTW, I use an inexpensive Sears vacuum pump and their brake bleed kit. Never got a firmer pedal, even after trying Viagra in the brake fluid.

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I could do the ramps. I prefer the security of having the car on jack stands, as the front wheels don't have an e brake. I could chock the wheels up front i suppose...

Anyway, I'm all done. I got a firm pedal and I didn't even have to resort to Viagra in the brake fliud!
 

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Just make sure that the fluid is above the line that feeds to the pedal. You will see a rubber hose more then half way up the brake reservoir. That is the supply line to the clutch pedal.

I too used the motive bleeder but opted for the euro black series i believe what they call it. Where the cap is alum instead of plastic.
 

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If you get in a pinch for an adapter, one can be made using the reservoir cap from a 5-series BMW from the 80's. I picked one up a couple weeks ago for $2 at the local pull-a-part.
 

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BTW, I use an inexpensive Sears vacuum pump and their brake bleed kit. Never got a firmer pedal, even after trying Viagra in the brake fluid.
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glb, I'm unclear what you use the vacuum pump for? Is this the pump to feed pressurized air into the brake bleeder? Thanks
 

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glb, I'm unclear what you use the vacuum pump for? Is this the pump to feed pressurized air into the brake bleeder? Thanks
I don't like pressurizing the system.

Using basting tool or similar, draw some old b/f out of master. Never let master get too low.

Select correct, tightly fitting rubber adapter to bleed valve.

Pour bit of b/f in container; it won't draw w/o this.

Pump vacuum to about 20-25"

Tap caliper, as above.

Open bleed valve.

Rinse, repeat.
 
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