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Who's got a head to head to head comparison of the cars in the Elise's class?
weight:power 0-60 1/4mile LatG's TopMPH MPGcity/hw
S2000
Miata
Z4
MR2
Boxster
BoxS

What about elite class like the
911
360
M3
etc.

I'm trying to put all this info into a spreadsheet... Anyone?
 

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jdl8r said:
Who's got a head to head to head comparison of the cars in the Elise's class?
weight:power 0-60 1/4mile LatG's TopMPH MPGcity/hw
S2000
Miata
Z4
MR2
Boxster
BoxS

What about elite class like the
911
360
M3
etc.

I'm trying to put all this info into a spreadsheet... Anyone?
M3, Boxster and Elise are right around the same money... Don't think I would class Miata, S2000 and Z4 in the same class as the Elise or 360 for that matter.

I never entertained buying Miata or S2000. I did consider the M3 and Boxster S. BMW, Porsche and Lotus are more upscale than Mazda and Honda IMO. How ever I also never considered the M3 to be "elite" class either:confused:
 

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Here's some info. This my recent lame attempt at making a comparison sheet for various cars, times were taken from Car&Driver or Road& Track when available.

............................Weight...hp...Length...Width...Height
Lotus Elise...............1975....190....149.0....67.7....44.0
Shelby Cobra 289......2170....271....151.5....61.0....49.0
Porsche 914/6..........2191....125....156.9....65.0....48.0
Mosler MT900S.........2200....435....189.0....79.0....44.5
Datsun 240Z............2301....150....162.8....64.1....50.6
Toyota MR2 Spyder...2315....138....153.0....66.7....48.8
Shelby Cobra 427......2350....425....156.0....68.0....49.0
Mazda Miata.............2447....142....155.7....66.0....48.4
Honda del Sol VTEC...2522....160....157.3....66.7....49.4
Honda S2000............2835....240....162.2....68.9....50.0
Porsche Boxster S.....2855....250....171.0....70.1....50.8
Ferrari 360 Modena....3064....400....176.3....75.5....47.8
Corvette Z06............3118....405....179.7....73.6....47.7
Nissan 350Z.............3197....287....169.7....71.5....51.6
Mistu Lancer Evo......3263....271....178.5....69.7....57.1
Subaru WRX STI.......3263....300....173.8....68.5....56.3
Audi TT Coupe..........3274....225....159.1....73.1....53.0
Infiniti G35 Sedan......3398....260....186.5....69.0....57.7
BMW M3 Coupe.........3415....333....176.8....70.1....54.0
Ford SVT Cobra.........3665....390....183.5....73.1....52.5
Audi S4 Sedan..........3825....340....179.0....69.5....56.2


Performance:
..............................lb/hp...1/4 mile
Mosler MT900S...........5.1......11.4
Shelby Cobra 427........5.5......12.4
Ferrari 360 Modena......7.7......13.2
Corvette Z06.............7.7......12.7
Shebly Cobra 289........8.0......13.9
Ford SVT Cobra..........9.4......12.9
BMW M3 Coupe.........10.3......13.6
Lotus Elise...............10.4......????
Subaru WRX STI.......10.9......13.2
Nissan 350Z.............11.1......14.3
Audi S4 Sedan..........11.3......13.6
Porsche BoxsterS......11.4......13.9
Honda S2000............11.8......14.9
Mitsu Lancer Evo.......12.0......13.6
Infiniti G35 Sedan......13.1......14.2
Audi TT Coupe..........14.6......14.6
Datsun 240Z.............15.3......16.3
Honda del sol VTEC....15.8......15.8
Toyota MR2 Spyder...16.8......16.2
Mazda Miata.............17.2......16.3
Porsche 914/6..........17.6......16.7
 

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Oww, that's great info... I'll compile everything and send out what I got when I'm finished...
 

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I started typing in some of the data from the back of R&T. At the time I was only interested in 0-60, skidpad, and 60-0:

# 0-60 Skidpad 60-0 Car
5.0 0.91 117 # Acuura NSX
6.7 0.82 146 # Acura RSX Type-S
3.4 0.86 127 # McLaren F1
4.7 0.88 125 # Aston Martin Vanquish
7.1 0.85 125 # Audi A4 3.0 Quattro
6.7 0.78 121 # Audi A8 L
4.6 0.88 118 # Audi RS 6
5.4 0.86 118 # Audi S4
6.7 0.86 119 # Audi TT
6.3 0.74 133 # Bently Arnage Red Label
5.0 0.87 112 # BMW M3 SMG
4.8 0.85 116 # BMW M5
5.6 0.92 113 # BMW Z4 3.0i
6.1 0.86 129 # BMW 330i
6.3 0.87 121 # BMW 745i
7.3 0.82 132 # Cadillac CTS
5.0 0.87 115 # Cadillac CTS-V
5.8 0.87 121 # Cadillac XLR
#3.5 1.44 96 # Chevrolet Corvette C5-R
4.9 0.89 134 # Chevrolet Corvette 50th Anniversary
4.4 0.94 107 # Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Comm. Ed.
6.7 0.89 115 # Chrysler Crossfire
7.2 0.78 134 # Chrysler PT Turbo
8.3 0.76 129 # Chrysler Sebring LXi Coupe
5.6 0.84 122 # Dodge SRT-4
4.1 1.04 114 # Dodge Viper SRT-10
3.7 1.15 97 # Dodge Viper SRT-10 Comp. Coupe
3.3 1.01 109 # Ferrari Enzo
#4.3 110 # Ferrari 360 Modena
4.5 0.93 125 # Ferrari 360 Spider
3.8 0.99 117 # Ford GT
5.2 0.83 122 # Ford Mustang Mach 1
4.9 0.90 123 # Ford SVT Mustang Cobra
7.0 0.83 137 # Ford Thunderbird
7.3 0.69 145 # Honda Accord EX-V6
6.3 0.81 127 # Honda Accord EX-V6 Coupe
7.6 0.81 133 # Honda Civic Si
10.7 0.76 153 # Honda Insight
5.5 0.88 137 # Honda S2000

As an interesting aside, there is some correlation between skidpad and 60-0 time, which we could use to guestimate braking distance. Altho someone will no doubt measure a 111r before too long.
 

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Ok, I compiled both spreadsheets into an XML file. Please, anyone feel free to alter the attached file and reattach it in this thread. We can get a good solid comparison document compiled!!!

Here it is:

http://www.uselise.com/data/comparison.xml

PS - Randy, can you allow XML attachments so we don't have to zip this thing every time we change it? Thanks!!!
 

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OneFastMiata said:
A 6 cylinder 914 is slower than a 4 cylinder miata in the quartermile?
Yeah, but you've got to remember the 914-6 was only made in the early seveties. Plus it's only got 125hp from a 2liter to the Miata's 142. They were great cars for their time, and can be turned into monsters now. But stock for stock, the Miata wins.
 

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I just ask because my father in law has a widebody 914/6 with sidedrafts etc, and its fast as hell, I guess I cant compare stock for modded...I didnt realize how anemic stock was.
 
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