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Hello everyone from Lotus Talk. My name is Klint.. I'm 21 years old.. ( no tickets no accidents)..I live around Modesto, Turlock, Ceres (central california) and have been driving for about 6-7 years. I don't have enough money for a Lotus yet, but I am surely saving up for one.

I have read alot of the stickys here to learn as much as i can before buying a Lotus. I want a Lotus Elise SC or a NA Elise- I doubt i can afford the Exige \ exige s.

I am no newbie to the 2zz engine, i have two of them. ;) I have a RED 00 Toyota Celica GT-S 6 spd & a Liquid Silver 01 Celica GT-S Sportshift. I am from Newcelica.org.

That is actually what made me so drawn into the Lotus.

I have yet to test drive any Lotus, which i really want to.

Here are a few pictures of my celicas
Red one is my show car\ daily driver... silver is my weekend car. I havent had a nice photoshoot with my current setup yet on my red one.
I'm sponsored by Novella nicole( HIN model\bestfriend) & ExtremeLambodoors.com





And my silver one





I plan to sell my silver one, and from there save up for a Lotus.


My red one looks alot better in person - i don't have a good picture of it yet... but as far as the attention the lotus will bring i am already used to it with my red GTS.
This is my life ( im sure many of yours also) on a daily basis.


I have a few questions though ( even after reading the stickys) I'm sure they have been covered and i appologize in advance if i skipped over them\mis read.

What is the difference between the Elise and Exige... how do you tell them apart? The visible difference i see is the rear wing.

Is there a certain model i should stay away from? For example in the "Celica World" ideal one is a 00-01 GTS 6 spd . and the GT is slower than a snail.

Price range in central california\ bay area?
for example like

oh idk 05 elise .. 20k miles is worth 25k.. comparisons like that.

Have any of you went from a Celica to a Lotus? if so what do you recomend?

The only thing i gotta get used to is a RWD car.. maybe i can meet up with someone from my area and you can teach me a thing or two about the car?

Thats all i can think of for now- i hope to recieve informational and supportive coments :) I'm still getting used to getting around the site but its similar to Newcelica.org.

I plan to keep my red gts as a DD and a lotus as my in town driver.
 

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Welcome.

Please don't do that to your Lotus when you get it.

You may want to rethink your Lotus' main duty being your in town driver. Certainly you can get around town with it, but that is its least favorite environment, and frankly they are no fun driving around a town or city.

Potholes, poor visibility (seeing and being seen), increased liklihood of a very expensive vender cracker (the fenders don't bend, they break), on the clutch all the time in city traffic, little air flow to you or the car, absolutely NO parallel parking....the city just isn't a happy place for the car or driver.

The attention you get with your Celica...multiply it several times over for the Lotus.
 

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The choice of the word "Lurking" makes me nervous, but welcome to LT...I personally think that both the elise and the exige are fantastic autos, but if given a choice with money out of the equation, I would go with the Exige...as my boyfriend would say, "Sex on wheels."

Your pics of your Paparazzi made me laugh...totally know what that's like, as I have had the priviledge of driving in a Rossion and a Noble...they get quite a bit of attention too.

Your cars look great! :clap: Good luck on your search for the perfect Lotus...the elise and exige are both beautiful works of art.
 

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Welcome.

Please don't do that to your Lotus when you get it.

You may want to rethink your Lotus' main duty being your in town driver. Certainly you can get around town with it, but that is its least favorite environment, and frankly they are no fun driving around a town or city.

Potholes, poor visibility (seeing and being seen), increased liklihood of a very expensive vender cracker (the fenders don't bend, they break), on the clutch all the time in city traffic, little air flow to you or the car, absolutely NO parallel parking....the city just isn't a happy place for the car or driver.

The attention you get with your Celica...multiply it several times over for the Lotus.
I'm assuming you are talking about the doors... and not in this lifetime i wont. You just don't do that to a Lotus \ exotic. I love the look on the Celica & thats it... and since i was sponsored by a site and i use it for some car shows its kind of a must.. but they are played out on most cars, on the Celica However, with the right kit i think it can be done right.

I wont always use the lotus for the city, i'd def drive it like it was meant to be driven.. just like i do with my GT-S.

I already don't parallel park in my GT-S's , and i def wont do it to my lotus. Both cars are way too low to be seen and the way people drive\ park scares me to hell.

Thanks for your reply :)
 

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The choice of the word "Lurking" makes me nervous, but welcome to LT...I personally think that both the elise and the exige are fantastic autos, but if given a choice with money out of the equation, I would go with the Exige...as my boyfriend would say, "Sex on wheels."

Your pics of your Paparazzi made me laugh...totally know what that's like, as I have had the priviledge of driving in a Rossion and a Noble...they get quite a bit of attention too.

Your cars look great! :clap: Good luck on your search for the perfect Lotus...the elise and exige are both beautiful works of art.
haha, well by lurking i just meant that i read whats going on but i don't really post an opinion on the subject. i wan't to learn alot more about the car before i post my opinion\ advice. Granted on the 2zz engine topics if i come across something i will post in there - just because i know how it works and im familiar with it.

& i think you are being too modest when you say that it's " sex on wheels" .. please give it more credit ;):D
 

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I love your red Celica. The Lotus would seem like a car you would naturally be interested in. With regard to Exige vs. Elise, I would say that you should wait for the deal you can afford on the one that you like the looks of best. Good luck with your search.
 

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What is the difference between the Elise and Exige... how do you tell them apart?


The only thing i gotta get used to is a RWD car.. maybe i can meet up with someone from my area and you can teach me a thing or two about the car?

The difference between the elise and the exige is that the exige is a track car while the elise is a street going track car. Oh and theres also the HP difference depending on the model...normal elise, elise sc, exige, exige s, exige s240, s260...etc. Easiest way to tell them apart is to look at the back window because the exige doesnt have one.


the only thing you need to learn about driving a mid engine/rwd car is DONT LIFT rotfl

enjoy.
 

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Wow thinking about a Lotus at 21 impressive. I was driving a Corolla till I was about 28. Good luck. I am just now thinking about getting something like a Lotus.
 

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Wow thinking about a Lotus at 21 impressive. I was driving a Corolla till I was about 28. Good luck. I am just now thinking about getting something like a Lotus.
thanks , i appreciate it . Well just like someone on these boards said: its not about how much money you make, its how much you dont spend.

I'm an advanced emission specialist ( smog technician in cali).. i got 8 degrees in automotive to be able to take my state test , and i was 1\14 out of the 300 that took the test that passed. I just love learning about cars... & i love driving. I don't make too much money, i work every friday (4 days a month), and i'm getting around 600-700 a month.. with financial aid help from school to pay expenses for school books and "transportation" i get 1200 every couple months on top of that.. i just used good money habbits to buy my celicas (that i got a great deal on).
 

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I just kept my rolla through school to keep my loans down as much as possible. Its much easier to enjoy something nice when you dont have to worry about paying for it.
 

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I just kept my rolla through school to keep my loans down as much as possible. Its much easier to enjoy something nice when you dont have to worry about paying for it.
thats why im paying in cash. :up:
 

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...in every way that counts, the elise and exige are the same car - stock performance differences (speed for the former, handling for the latter) are dwarfed by driver skill and made moot by aftermarket modifications...

...go with the model you like best and feel most comfortable driving...
 

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...in every way that counts, the elise and exige are the same car - stock performance differences (speed for the former, handling for the latter) are dwarfed by driver skill and made moot by aftermarket modifications...

...go with the model you like best and feel most comfortable driving...
thanks!
 

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which models have the 1zz engine? i want to stay away from that.
 

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...all federal cars share the same toyota 2ZZ-GE powerplant tuned by lotus...miscellaneous supercharging, throttle, traction control, limited slip differential, suspension, exhaust, safety, and aero packages exist, all of which (save the differential) are outperformed more economically by aftermarket solutions, and none of which make as big a difference as driver skill...
 

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Right. There is an Elise S sold in Europe that uses the 1zz engine and I actually like it. I took one around Nurburgring and it is quite fast.
 

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Engine wise isn't a 1zz SC is as or very slightly more powerful than a 2zz NA.

im a 2zz fanatic , i love "lift" :)
 

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well, i just officially put one of my celicas for sale .
 
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