Which group buy is this one?Patricko said:I have ordered it and yes it is on track but you have to place your order by the end of the year.
I am 95% sure that it has NOT been tested on a federal car but these guys know the Elise and I have confidence in them.
Looks great! Real Philips (name brand I recognize) ballast and bulbs. No Elise installations yet?I spoke to the Xenon Factory guy. He said $400 for the group buy. He said his kit comes with a three year warranty.
This confuses me because I think of the Main Beam as the "Low Beam", the one that's on 95% of the time. I don't know what the dipped beam is, but I assume it's the low beam.On thing they are doing, which is very interesting IMHO is the
developement of a twin kit for the price of 1 1/2 standard kit. The
trick is that you will get a separate H1 and H7 bulb for dipped and
main beam, but you will only get one ballast with a special switch
unit (all from the same factory, no tricky stuff with putting together
kits or so). What will happen is that when you normally drive, you
will have the normal lo-beam, but if you switch to main beam, lo-beam will be switched off, but main beam will be HID as well
So they have a kit but don't even know where the bulbs come from, and it's for show car use only. The Xenon Factory kit sounds nicer.For legal reasons, we are only delivering HID conversion kits for show use. By buying a kit, you agree to let a professional mechanic, who's able to deal with these high voltage units, do the installation.
Using these lamps on public roads might be illegal (depending on local laws)
The kit we're currently doing contains of Hella ballasts. I'm not completely sure about the bulbs, I think they are also Hella. (6000K)
It is this one. 250 Euro...Ground Loop said:Which group buy is this one?
Hello Ron,pianomaniac said:Patrick,
Why not go with the dual kit?
Ron
Mact, you seem to be the most knowledgable person here on lighting ... where do you come down on this kit? Good deal? Good quality?mact3333 said:OK...fair enough, the ballast is probably the easiest to "get right" and the least important aspect of the kit(assuming it works properly) but what about the bulbs???...are they coated blue?...what is the color scale rating?...are they either Philips or Osram???...Osram makes either 4300K or 5400K only...Philips makes 4300K and 6000K bulbs only....while my personal opinion, I would only buy bulbs made by Philips or Osram...if your bulbs are equivalent to Philips or Osrams and you guarantee them, then I think everyone should just buy from you but if they are coated blue, then personally I wouldnt touch them myself.
Steve, his kit is your garden variety after mkt kit that he buys from a kit manufactorer that prob. rebases the bulbs from outside source...doesnt seem special to me in anyway...hard to say unless I persoanlly look at it which I cannot..while I personally would only buy Osram or Philips bulbs, I cant say if his bulbs are good quality or not since I have not personally seen them but he did say they were not philips or osrams...he is offering a 1 yr warranty...other places offer a 3yr warranty...one thing you have to remember is he is a elise pt seller and not a lighting expert(sorry Yvo...Steve said:Mact, you seem to be the most knowledgable person here on lighting ... where do you come down on this kit? Good deal? Good quality?
I was thinkng about the H1 single kit also ...
Steve
Makes sense -- I wouldn't add it to a housing that didn't already support it. So this means removing and losing the high beam altogether, right? Any way to keep the existing halogen high beam with a new HID? I haven't poked around in there, so I don't know if that's a stupid question.mact3333 said:I wouldnt buy a dual kit cause movement within the housing is something I wouldnt want...too much that can go wrong...
I'm really happy with the color of my other OE HID lights on Toyota & Infiniti. What color do they use? It doesn't feel blue, doesn't feel yellow, and it makes signs sparkle nicely. Good clean light. I'd like that on the Elise. 4300k?
go 4300K if you want white/yellowish look with max light output or go 6000K ultinon system if you want white with bluish tint...key is to never buy coated buobs or anything above 6000K in color scale.
I think I saw them in Griott's catalog -- "HID Garage Lights" or somesuch.Vantage said:Say GL, does anyone make xenon shop lamps?![]()
Ground Loop said:Makes sense -- I wouldn't add it to a housing that didn't already support it. So this means removing and losing the high beam altogether, right? Any way to keep the existing halogen high beam with a new HID? I haven't poked around in there, so I don't know if that's a stupid question.
I'm really happy with the color of my other OE HID lights on Toyota & Infiniti. What color do they use? It doesn't feel blue, doesn't feel yellow, and it makes signs sparkle nicely. Good clean light. I'd like that on the Elise. 4300k?
Cool. Since the 'blue tint' seems to now be associated with Rice and darn-illegal upgrades, I'd like to stick to the everyday headlight color. They're working great on my other cars -- I want some of that.mact3333 said:Yes, then you would want the 4300K kit...all 4300K kits have some yellow in them if you look closely against a white background...this is something you will not see though if you were facing the lights from a distance...
Ah, very good. It must be the S1 they're talking about, then. My high beams are A-OK. I've even thought about aiming them downward and using them in place of the totally worthless low beams until I can get an HID kit in there.
you wont lose the high beam at all cause the high beam bulbs you are not touching at all...on the elise, the bulb/lens on headlight assembly is low beam and thats where HID bulb will go in and the reflector part of housing is for high beam, which is untouched...
http://www.elise-shop.com/en-us/dept_5.htmlThe colourtemperature of the lamps 6000k or pure white; just like you might have noticed from other cars equipped with HID. This nearly white colour helps you to focus in the dark.
I looked up the bulbs in my Infiniti, and they are Philips D2R 35W capsules, 4100K.Philips and Osram are the ones widely used in cars in North America/Europe. ... They come with standard 4100K color temperature only. This is the only legal HID bulb color temperatire under DOT/ECE regulations.