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I feel that at my speed on the track it's time to upgrade to some more safety mods. I have been looking at seats and harness's and it seems to be around $3,500 to go from my 3pt belt to 6 point harness.
I have a 2005 base model Elise so new seats are a minimum $1400 times two seats, plus a full 6 pt harness kit is around $1400

I want to do it right but is there a less expensive way to do this without upgrading everything?
 

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Why do You say 6-point harness is $1400? I would buy a certified 6-point harness. It is $150 to $300. Read SCCA regulations to see what is allowed. Some brand-name harnesses made in the East are no longer allowed. :) So expensive does not mean good. I prefer camlock mechanism... You can get away with 5-point, but Lotus seating position is more like a Formula car (6-point required) then a sedan...

The attachment point for the shoulder belts is more of a problem and an expense i.e. harness bar. Again, read and follow the regulations.

I always look at CF seats peddled here. They look cute! Are they certified by SFI or FIA? Are they really going to protect you. If you want to get away with a reasonably prices reliable seat look at Kirkey. They are aluminum. They are light. All kinds of models from partial to full containment is available (will be hard to get into). 14" seat barely fits...

Good Luck!

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I think "6pt harness kit" referred to all of the hardware (real through-the-tub seat attachments, harness bar, and so on) since the total price seems right.

How often do you drive at speed with a passenger? You could cut a lot of cost by not doing the passenger's side. Obviously if you take instructors along that won't work out...
 

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Don't use a 6 point where the sub belts run under the thighs to the lap belts, as many allow submarining. The sub belts generally need their own holes in the seat and mounting points.
http://www.hmsmotorsport.com/docs/Competition_Instructions.pdf
Kirkey seat will not be FIA and requires specific bracing in order to not fold up, so obviously can't be on sliders, and you roll bar / harness bar needs to accommodate the bracing.
 

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Almighty, I never said cheap, but when I see all carbon fiber seats it feels like there should be something less expensive. The 6pt I am referring to is the sector 111 one with all the hardware, harness bar etc.

I have passengers often, I love taking friends and I do instruct with one club and will hopefully be going through another clubs instructor school soon so I want my students to also be safe and I feel I am not teaching properly if I have a 6pt while my student has a standard 3pt belt...

In other words I am going to do this soon, but is there a way to accomplish it without spending an arm and a leg. I am not interested in paying $500 more to save 5 lbs.
Are there lower cost but still effective seats out there because all I am finding is $1400+ for carbon fiber seats.
 

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I think the cheapest way to add a six point harness for an Elise is to purchase a used set of Exige seats (~$1400) and add the Sector111 5th point seat grommet for $20 each. Sector 111 harness bar is around $120 used on the forum. A brand new Schroth 6 pts harness is $400 per set.

I sold my stock elise seats for $800 on craigslist.

You can easily has a good 6pts system for around $1600 for two passengers.
 

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How about this guy?
It's a drop-in. Retains the stock rails and all.

Corbeau Race seat for standard Seat rails [CLXBE] - €488.00 : Elise Shop, Performance parts for your Lotus Elise

This one 'looks' nice, too.
Elise Exige 340R 2-Eleven Mulsanne B Single Skin Race Seat | Hangar 111

If it were upto me, I'd try and get my hands on a stock FIA certified carbon fiber HANS seat out of 2009 Exige S260... because it just belongs there. They command hefty premium and I haven't seen those floating in the FS section in forever, though.
 

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I think the cheapest way to add a six point harness for an Elise is to purchase a used set of Exige seats (~$1400) and add the Sector111 5th point seat grommet for $20 each. Sector 111 harness bar is around $120 used on the forum. A brand new Schroth 6 pts harness is $400 per set.

I sold my stock elise seats for $800 on craigslist.

You can easily has a good 6pts system for around $1600 for two passengers.
Basically what I did. It's a practical solution.

You get into issues of where to attach belts and improving the seat attachment to the car as with any system.
 

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How about this guy?
It's a drop-in. Retains the stock rails and all.

Corbeau Race seat for standard Seat rails [CLXBE] - €488.00 : Elise Shop, Performance parts for your Lotus Elise

This one 'looks' nice, too.
Elise Exige 340R 2-Eleven Mulsanne B Single Skin Race Seat | Hangar 111

If it were upto me, I'd try and get my hands on a stock FIA certified carbon fiber HANS seat out of 2009 Exige S260... because it just belongs there. They command hefty premium and I haven't seen those floating in the FS section in forever, though.
Thank you, that is the sort of thing I am looking for, safe and decent seats at a not needing to be super light price tag. I will look around for these and read up since this is more in my budget.
 

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If you don't mind trimming the fiberglass as shown above ^, then Corbeau FX1 Pro will fit, and are only ~$300 each. I have a pair of them in my car. I did have to make custom rails though, I have never bought any premade rails so no idea if they would work, but I doubt it.
 

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If you don't mind trimming the fiberglass as shown above ^, then Corbeau FX1 Pro will fit, and are only ~$300 each. I have a pair of them in my car. I did have to make custom rails though, I have never bought any premade rails so no idea if they would work, but I doubt it.
Do you have pics of them installed in your car?
 

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I'll try and post some here, but if you look in my harness bar thread (next one down in this subforum), there is a picture near the end.
 

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Just found that sector 111 is now carrying the corbeau seats that others posted about but where located out of Europe, I would prefer to buy something stateside and these are in my budget with stock fitment since I am a pretty bad mechanic/fabricator.
Corbeau LE-Pro
 
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