Im soeaking strictly about the valence part of it...upper rear end looks great...it looks like there should be quad exhaust tips but there are just open areas there now and they place the tips in the middle which looks out of place...arent the exhaust tips placed laterally on euro elises???
just me or the rear kinda ugly on elise due to exhaust???
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The euro s2s have the exhaust on the outside edges. The 111R and US car have two exiting out the bottom of the diffuser. Actually looks pretty good in person.
Also, of note, the exhaust on the S1 elise exited out in the center above the diffuser.
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The euro s2s have the exhaust on the outside edges. The 111R and US car have two exiting out the bottom of the diffuser. Actually looks pretty good in person.
Also, of note, the exhaust on the S1 elise exited out in the center above the diffuser.
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Unless you are siting on the ground, you hardly notice the rear exhaust. The car is just that low.
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I agree with the Euros but at this point I don't even care if it had a snorkel. I just want the car like everyone else. HURRY UP LOTUS!!!!!!!
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Well, the S2 was indeed designed to have the exhaust come out the sides. I wish we had the old exhaust too, but it really doesnt look that bad in person. Believe me, I was surprised, because I too am an advocate for the original exhaust layout.
Kinda reminds me of the bumper laws back int he 70s. Cars in europe were designed with beautiful fenders and bumpers, then the US DOT required full bumpers, and all the once pretty euro cars had these awful looking bumpers on them that were not designed with the car.
Kinda reminds me of the bumper laws back int he 70s. Cars in europe were designed with beautiful fenders and bumpers, then the US DOT required full bumpers, and all the once pretty euro cars had these awful looking bumpers on them that were not designed with the car.
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i'd love to see a picture of the stage 2
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Hate may be too strong a word, but I feel that the central exhaust lacks character and would much prefer the twin lateral pipes. Not that big a deal, though.atyclb said:
The side reflectors are not a good thing, but again a minor annoyance. May be less of an issue when we see them on more and more cars.
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I think a lot of the Euro reaction was to it being different than what it was and like many reactions to the new Elise, most complaints have simmered way down.
For me, I don't really care. I am inside the car.
For me, I don't really care. I am inside the car.
its not that i think the the actual exhaust tips look bad...its the openings laterally that look bad to me cause there is an open space and it is very obvious something was supposed to be there...will the stage I or II exhaust help cause that has double pronged exhaust tips also does it not(ie-needs to be centrally placed also)?...will st. I or II be able to placed out laterally so we can fill up that open space???
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We think alike.Vantage said:<a href="http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/search.php?s=" border = 0><img src="http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/images/top_search.gif" border = 0></a>
People hate me for things like this.
http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=55514#post55514You think it's bad now, wait till the cars hit the shores and more newbs find this forum...of course they are all welcomed.
"I believe they saved weight by having the tips exit the diffuser. The plumbing is very simple as a result. "
I am surprised that some brilliant Lotus engineer did not design a combination cat converter/muffler using that rectangular space available, and drop the exhaust pipe down directly into it, rather than stay with separate cat and muffler with that U-shaped pipe sticking out the side.
I am surprised that some brilliant Lotus engineer did not design a combination cat converter/muffler using that rectangular space available, and drop the exhaust pipe down directly into it, rather than stay with separate cat and muffler with that U-shaped pipe sticking out the side.
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Not sure what you mean by openings?mact3333 said:
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