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Beings that the Elise does not have power steering, how does this affect the driving experience? I have never driven a car without it.
 

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You won't miss it. The car is light enough that it is unnecessary. All you notice is that it is a little harder to turn the wheel when stationary, but you can probably still do it with one hand.
 

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Have a mid-engine car with a extra 800 lbs, no power steering. As light as the Elise is no real need for it. It'll give you a more direct linear feedback. With the shorter stiffer sidewalls and light weight even at parking lots speeds it wouldn't be very heavy (the euro car wasn't).
 

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I've driven a euro-spec Elise. The steering does not feel particularly "heavy" or difficult in any way. It makes for a very direct, immediate driving experience. If you've ever driven a kart, the steering experience is similar to that.
 

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I can't wait for it.

After driving the 111S demo, I got back into my M3 and it felt like I was driving a Buick--that floaty. And this was after just a 10 minute test drive.

(not that the new M3's are that great in steering feel in the first place though)
 

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RareAir23 said:
Beings that the Elise does not have power steering, how does this affect the driving experience? I have never driven a car without it.
LOL. Do you need power steering on a bicycle? Seriously, it does not need it.
 

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Thanks for all the responses. It's just something I had no idea about. When I think no power steering, I guess I think 50's era with giant steering wheels doing the windmill turn.
 

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I think the item that took more getting used to than the lack of power steering on the Euro spec cars was the lack of power assisted brakes. I almost thought the brakes weren't working, but ended up loving the feel.

Does the brake pedal have a good feel on the Fed car? The excessive travel reports are a bit disappointing.
 

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Does the brake pedal have a good feel on the Fed car? The excessive travel reports are a bit disappointing.
I think travel is one of things that is very relative. Compared to my shifter kart, the Elise has too much travel. :)

I thought the brakes felt great on the Elise and did not notice any extra travel.
 

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When I test drove a Euro Elise back in December, I could tell it did not have power steering, but it's not as bad as older cars that didn't have power steering.
 

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My Europa didn't have power steering and it was terrific now my Seven doesn't have power anything and it is definately the most responsive car I have driven. Once you go without all the boosted, isolated, power features you will not want to go back.
 

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My NSX doesn't have power steering and it's no problem at all.

I don't anticipate any issues with the Elise.

-Jim
 

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IMO, the main benefit of power steering (at least a good one) is to make the steering effort consistent between slow and quick driving. I've driven NSX's with and without power steering. I like the feel of the NSX with power steering because I don't have to adjust for the steering effort differences when the car is slow or fast (you can notice the difference on the track trying to make a slow turn vs going on a fast sweeper). Granted, the NSX probably has one of the best power steering system out there, which also points to the fact that steering feel is more than a function of whether there is or there isn't power steering.

That aside, I'm perfectly fine not having the power steering on the Elise, and I don't really see myself trying to parallel park the Elise on the hills of San Francisco. I'll be more concerned about break-ins and other cars touching it anyway.
 

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zvezdah1 said:
Power steering would totally kill the elise!!
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hi Chris

how are the breaks on your car? Some of us have been reading of long pedal travel and not so good feedback.

thanks!
Ara
 

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Ara,
I think the brakes are great. Haven't had to get on them really hard but I don't really get the sensation that the feel is vague in anyway. Didn't notice overly pedal travel when braking/
Chris
 

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I never felt that the brakes required too much pedal either. They felt great.
 

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zvezdah1 said:
Power steering would totally kill the elise!!
Chris
Yah, a car without powersteering allows the driver to feel the road quite a bit more. Great for precision driving.
 
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