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As posted to Jeffrey Chan's yahoo mailing list-

Weissach's message:

The 2005 lotus Elise has been approved for sale in the United States;
we are currently awaiting Canadian certification and will be in a
position to confirm availability early next year,
The Elise is scheduled to debut in North America late in 2004 as 2005
model year cars,
U.S pricing is to be around $39000 and Canadian pricing in the
$59000, subject to change by LCUSA.

We will only get a limited quantity of cars in Canada and our list is
very long with probable clients, we are accepting $2500.(cdn) deposit
that is refundable subject to availability
This will ensure you are on the list;
It is very important for us to build an order bank as that will make
a strong case for more allocation of cars, the order bank in the U.S
is very large as the car is an immense success. We urge you to put a
deposit if you are serious and we will make every effort to get you a
car.
Deposits will increase to 15000.00 non refundable upon confirmation
of options and colors.

Please email me back or call any of our sales specialist, Bill Ryan,
Brian Lang and they will be pleased to assist and do the necessary
paperwork.
We will have very favorable lease terms available as well.

Regards

Asgar Virji
President/
Weissach Lotus/Lamborghini/RUF
 

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Ouch, you have to come up with 15K at the time of placing the order? I don't think many people have that kind of money.

What do you think the US dealers are going to do when it is time to place your order? Require more money of is the initial deposit enough?
 

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Ouch, you have to come up with 15K at the time of placing the order? I don't think many people have that kind of money.

What do you think the US dealers are going to do when it is time to place your order? Require more money of is the initial deposit enough?
I have my deposit with LOA and they want 15% when you actually order it.
 

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A local dealer (SVAG) will be requiring an additional $1-2k upon placement of order - or so I've heard secondhand. However, they're pretty flexible with this, and supposedly, if you put your money down with them before this policy was in place, you won't be bound by it.
 

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nxm150 said:
Ouch, you have to come up with 15K at the time of placing the order? I don't think many people have that kind of money.
Remember that's Canadian dollars. 15k Canadian = 1.5k US

Just kidding...;)
 

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watch it Mapes....don't underestimate the Canadian Peso :D

Good to see some more promising news on the Elise coming to Canada, though I'm holding my breath until Transport Canada approves it.
 

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i m on weissach's list quite far ahead and i have not heard of the $15k additional deposit.

i do agree that interested buyers should get on the list so they can present their customer's interest to lotus cars USA and get their butts to make sure it go thru canadian DOT.
 

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I talked to Asgar @ Weissach about 2 weeks ago and the strategy for Lotus to get the car in Canada is the same as what they did for the US. They are citing financial hardship if they can't import the car and the subsequent loss to the economy if Lotus were to cease sales in Canada. His feeling is that the Canadian car will be 6 months behind the US introduction.

I have a deposit but I am not holding my breath since we have a track record of not allowing cars such as the MR2 Spyder and Evo VIII to Canada due to slight differences in regulations.

Weissach is the Western Canada sales for Lotus cars and his plans are for 50 cars in 2005.

Alex
 

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If you want one, you might want to check with John Scotti in Montreal. When I considered an Elise, I could reserve the #1 spot on the list for 1000$can. There are more people on the list now, but last I heard, they were still accepting 1000$ deposit.
 

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I'm sure you all heard about Canada's commitment to Operation Iraqi Freedom, too: They pledged a full brigade, two destroyers, and an airwing... but with the current exchange rates that worked out to two canoes, a flock of geese, and a mountie.

Cade

PS... jk, eh!
 

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achiu said:
I talked to Asgar @ Weissach about 2 weeks ago and the strategy for Lotus to get the car in Canada is the same as what they did for the US. They are citing financial hardship if they can't import the car and the subsequent loss to the economy if Lotus were to cease sales in Canada. His feeling is that the Canadian car will be 6 months behind the US introduction.

I have a deposit but I am not holding my breath since we have a track record of not allowing cars such as the MR2 Spyder and Evo VIII to Canada due to slight differences in regulations.

Weissach is the Western Canada sales for Lotus cars and his plans are for 50 cars in 2005.

Alex
I certainly would like for Canadians to be able to enjoy the joys of Elise ownership. However, I'm not sure how Lotus could justify economic hardship by not selling the car there. They already are limiting production in the US below what they could sell for the first couple of years, so they have no excess production to sell in Canada. Where are the cars going to come from to sell to Canada?
 

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jml1952 said:
... They already are limiting production in the US below what they could sell for the first couple of years, so they have no excess production to sell in Canada. Where are the cars going to come from to sell to Canada?
I asked a bunch of pointed questions at the LA Auto Show about production volume capability, and the answer was a hedge- to my knowledge, they are not anywhere CLOSE to round the clock shifts (which would increase utilization of existing lines), and the issue of production volume was much more constrained by Lotus's desire to appropriately balance supply & demand than it was by physical production limitations. From what I was told, they are very focused on establishing a LONG TERM presence in the United States, and if they max out production at the first opportunity, the wave of demand falls flat too early and the flagship car (the Elise) won't be able to carry them to where they want to be. Frustrating for those of us anxiously waiting, but it makes great marketing sense.

If the above information is correct, it should be relatively easy for Lotus to come up with volume for introduction in the Canadian market if & when they obtain certification- shipments to that market won't have any substantial impact on the U.S. supply and demand curves.

-Knute
#38 at Steve Harris Imports
 

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MotorCade said:
I'm sure you all heard about Canada's commitment to Operation Iraqi Freedom, too: They pledged a full brigade, two destroyers, and an airwing... but with the current exchange rates that worked out to two canoes, a flock of geese, and a mountie.

Cade

PS... jk, eh!
Hehehe, nice! :)

As for getting an Elise up here, looks like its time for fake Michigan plates.
 

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achiu said:
I talked to Asgar @ Weissach about 2 weeks ago and the strategy for Lotus to get the car in Canada is the same as what they did for the US. They are citing financial hardship if they can't import the car and the subsequent loss to the economy if Lotus were to cease sales in Canada. His feeling is that the Canadian car will be 6 months behind the US introduction.

I have a deposit but I am not holding my breath since we have a track record of not allowing cars such as the MR2 Spyder and Evo VIII to Canada due to slight differences in regulations.

Weissach is the Western Canada sales for Lotus cars and his plans are for 50 cars in 2005.

Alex
Since you guys are getting the 'Benz engined' Smart Coupe, two years before the U.S., perhaps you can swap them with
U.S. Lotus customers who find out that they can't afford the price but would be able to afford the $12,000 USD price of the 40hp Turbo Charged Diesel? NAFTA allows acceptance of
cars from Canada, providing they have U.S. required restraint systems. P.S. - I believe the Smart Coupe can 'haul ass, off the line' in about 9 seconds, 0-60.
 

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NAFTA allows acceptance of
cars from Canada, providing they have U.S. required restraint systems.
Um, I'm fairly certain that is not true.

If so, I'm sure the European spec BMW M3's that Canada got in 1994 would have almost certainly migrated south by now. They are very desirable cars, and only 50 or so were imported to Canada initially. I'm fairly certain they are just as hard to federalize as a car from any other LHD country.

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jml1952 said:
I certainly would like for Canadians to be able to enjoy the joys of Elise ownership. However, I'm not sure how Lotus could justify economic hardship by not selling the car there. They already are limiting production in the US below what they could sell for the first couple of years, so they have no excess production to sell in Canada. Where are the cars going to come from to sell to Canada?
if they really want, lotus cars UK and USA can work it out easily. there are what, 30+ dealers in the US? and 3 in canada?

all they have to do is to take 1 car off each allocation to the US (sorry) and divert them to canada.. and they get 10 cars per dealer...

the economic hardship trick is not going to get it thru transport canada.

weissach supposedly will bring a car in for the vancouver auto show end of march. i m sure they will have something to say, whether good or bad.
 
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