I am waiting patiently, but I agree it would be very helpful to arrange for financing to know approx when the car will arrive - capital one I believe gives you a check that is good for 45 days....
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Lotus may not know these answers if they don't have modern computer systems. I mean this is a company that has been eeking by for years, I wouldn't expect them to be as advanced as other car makers who when you give them a VIN can look up in the computer and tell you exactly where your car is at.
heck they may not even have phones on the factory floor for you to call that person building the cars...
If you send them a written letter, they may be able to handle your request in a fashion they are used to dealing with i.e. pushing paper...
heck they may not even have phones on the factory floor for you to call that person building the cars...
If you send them a written letter, they may be able to handle your request in a fashion they are used to dealing with i.e. pushing paper...
.....If Lotus doesn't even know how many US Spec cars they have built, then I'd say we are all up a creek.Later Apex said:Lotus may not know these answers if they don't have modern computer systems. I mean this is a company that has been eeking by for years, I wouldn't expect them to be as advanced as other car makers who when you give them a VIN can look up in the computer and tell you exactly where your car is at.
heck they may not even have phones on the factory floor for you to call that person building the cars...
If you send them a written letter, they may be able to handle your request in a fashion they are used to dealing with i.e. pushing paper...
I mean, they (Lotus) can go count the paperwork that has the rubber stamp on it that says: BUILD FINISHED.
Know what I'm saying?YES BUT...
Someone must first file form 94 to requisition a body to look through paperwork. That person needs form 712 to count completed build orders (known as form 994). The answers are then returned via form 18-C. In which case someone else is requisitioned via form 210-E to write you a letter answering your build question.
In other words, they aren't reading this and answering you here. They don't have the form for it!!!
Someone must first file form 94 to requisition a body to look through paperwork. That person needs form 712 to count completed build orders (known as form 994). The answers are then returned via form 18-C. In which case someone else is requisitioned via form 210-E to write you a letter answering your build question.
In other words, they aren't reading this and answering you here.
They don't have the form for it!!!
I can tell you that when I was at Hethel last Wednesday, May 19th, I saw cars numbered in the high 80's on the production line. You can estimate 5 or 6 Fed cars per day and extrapolate from there.
85 done + 5 cars X 7 days = 120 cars
divide that by 40 dealers gets you 3 cars per dealer are finished and on their way. 3-4 weeks later they should be here.
In case you haven't heard, these cars are totally hand made, so all of the above are rough estimates and there will be slight variations as certain demands and needs change within the factory. For instance, when I was visiting there was a big push to complete a bunch of Exiges for a European race series. This meant that there were a few more Exiges on the line than normal, and so maybe 4 Fed cars were built that day, or maybe more Fed cars because they were concentrating on Toyota powerd cars. Who knows? It's a very dynamic place and things are constantly moving.
We've waited years for the Elise to come to the states. What's the big deal about another couple of weeks? This car is not your normal automotive experience. Embrace that idea and you will be a happy person.
85 done + 5 cars X 7 days = 120 cars
divide that by 40 dealers gets you 3 cars per dealer are finished and on their way. 3-4 weeks later they should be here.
In case you haven't heard, these cars are totally hand made, so all of the above are rough estimates and there will be slight variations as certain demands and needs change within the factory. For instance, when I was visiting there was a big push to complete a bunch of Exiges for a European race series. This meant that there were a few more Exiges on the line than normal, and so maybe 4 Fed cars were built that day, or maybe more Fed cars because they were concentrating on Toyota powerd cars. Who knows? It's a very dynamic place and things are constantly moving.
We've waited years for the Elise to come to the states. What's the big deal about another couple of weeks? This car is not your normal automotive experience. Embrace that idea and you will be a happy person.
I think they are reading it..... Or at least the car rags are reading this message board. If everyone posts agreement and questions where the cars are, then perhaps we could get a more formal announcement.
Also, with recent comments by Hale and the new man in charge in ATL, they should be able to provide this information. They claim they want to take it to the next level... well if they can't even figure out what cars are produced and where they are, then I think it'll be a cold day in hell before they reach.....'the next level'
Also, with recent comments by Hale and the new man in charge in ATL, they should be able to provide this information. They claim they want to take it to the next level... well if they can't even figure out what cars are produced and where they are, then I think it'll be a cold day in hell before they reach.....'the next level'
I am a happy person...see look at all these...Robert Puertas said:I can tell you that when I was at Hethel last Wednesday, May 19th, I saw cars numbered in the high 80's on the production line. You can estimate 5 or 6 Fed cars per day and extrapolate from there.
85 done + 5 cars X 7 days = 120 cars
divide that by 40 dealers gets you 3 cars per dealer are finished and on their way. 3-4 weeks later they should be here.
In case you haven't heard, these cars are totally hand made, so all of the above are rough estimates and there will be slight variations as certain demands and needs change within the factory. For instance, when I was visiting there was a big push to complete a bunch of Exiges for a European race series. This meant that there were a few more Exiges on the line than normal, and so maybe 4 Fed cars were built that day, or maybe more Fed cars because they were concentrating on Toyota powerd cars. Who knows? It's a very dynamic place and things are constantly moving.
We've waited years for the Elise to come to the states. What's the big deal about another couple of weeks? This car is not your normal automotive experience. Embrace that idea and you will be a happy person.
... ; however, if you were at the factory last week, and you can post that kind of information off the cuff, then why can't the company do so? And yes, I know they are hand made.... smartass....
For example, the BMW Z3 was about 80% handmade... each car had an order sheet attached to it with a barcode. A simple scan of the barcode, and you knew where the car was. It's really not that difficult. $10 buys you a barcode reader that will hookup to any laptop computer.. some opensource software and a guy that simply scans the paperwork wouldnt' take that much time.
Would it?
Genjuro said:
X Eleventybillion....
Financing, insurance, scheduling time away from work to pick the car up (200 miles away for me), finding someone willing to drive me up there, etc.
And let me clarify, it's not having to wait additional time to get the car, I've had money down since January 2002. I miffed because they won't tell me when MY car is going to get to MY DEALER.
Chris,
I will read your post on English, as long as the post is in English, so that I will be able to understand the post.
Sorry.. it's a Friday and in 40 min I can leave!!!!!!!
I will read your post on English, as long as the post is in English, so that I will be able to understand the post.
Sorry.. it's a Friday and in 40 min I can leave!!!!!!!
My company makes solutions for companies to do exactly this: customer relationship management from Manufacturer -> Distributor -> Retailer -> Consumer and back. I want to make a proposal to Lotus, because I know we could help them, but at the same time there's a conflict since I'm their consumer. What to do?
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