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I received this e-mail and thought I should pass on the info:



Want to enhance your driving skills? Try The Lotus Driver Training
Experience

This is a fantastic Driver Training Course and will help you get the most
out of your driving.

Throughout the day you will be taken through various vehicle control
activities, beginning with under-steer, lift off over-steer, and then power
on over-steer training in a specially prepared Elise. You will then move
onto the Slalom activity, which is a series of gates similar to that you
would find on a Ski slope. This activity teaches you to plan ahead in terms
of vehicle positioning whilst also developing your vehicle control skills.
You will then break for Lunch.

The afternoon is spent developing those skills you have learned in the
morning, whilst improving your circuit driving skills on the full Lotus Test
Track. It doesn't matter where your driving skills lay at the moment, whey
will be taken onto a higher level allowing you to learn a lot, taking away
many useful skills for your benefit in the future.

The day costs £599 per person including VAT, and you only need to bring
yourself, some comfortable driving shoes and a current and valid driving
licence. You must be 21 years old or over.

Here are just a few of the many positive feedbacks we have had back from the
people that have completed the course:

* "We had gone on the training to learn and our expectations were far
surpassed".
* "I never realised just how good my Lotus is but Alastair and his
astounding handling skills proved that Lotus really are the Automotive
Engineers of Excellence"
* "Doing the demo drive at the end makes you realise just how much
there is to learn"

Our current dates available are as follows:

* Saturday 15th May
* Sunday 4th July
* Sunday 15th August

Well I hope you have found the information helpful. If you would like any
further information about the course or would like to book a place, please
do not hesitate to call me on 01953 608254.

I look forward to hearing from you!

Kindest Regards

Lisa Hartgrove
Lotus Driver Training Team
Lotus Sport and Performance
+44 (0)1953 608254
[email protected]


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oops - I didn't read the disclaimer at the bottom about dissemination of info until it was too late...I hope I am not in trouble for premature dissemination...I promise I will never do it again:D
 

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1.00 GBP
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I am very intrigued by the following: "You will be taken through various vehicle control activities, beginning with under-steer, lift off over-steer, and then power on over-steer training in a specially prepared Elise."

Now, I have been through two BMW car control clinics, five BMW tracks days, and a one-day Russell Racing course that was half car control clinic, half track instruction. In other words I'm a beginner. But I'm pretty aware of what I need to learn, and I certainly know how training sessions unfold, and I have to say that none of my instruction has really taught me all that much about understeer/oversteer.

So I'm wondering exactly how Lotus trains beginners to feel car dynamics that are a necessary result of driving at the limit of adhesion.

I mean, a skid pad is a good way for a beginner to learn power-on and trailing throttle oversteer, but I'm wondering how they teach understeer. The copy says in "a specially prepared Elise." Does anyone think the cars are rigged in some special way to expose vehicle dynamics?
 

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JonM3Coupe said:
I mean, a skid pad is a good way for a beginner to learn power-on and trailing throttle oversteer, but I'm wondering how they teach understeer. The copy says in "a specially prepared Elise." Does anyone think the cars are rigged in some special way to expose vehicle dynamics?
I did this course a few years ago with a friend of mine. Not sure if it's the same still but my friend did a small page on it (sorry.. it's in dutch, but the pictures should give some info)

http://www.verboom.net/div/lotus-training/27mei_nl.html

MPEG at the bottom is 2 laps with Dave Minter (who was our instructor, see the 111 video..) driving. Bone stock 120HP cars in this case...

Oh.. Just mentioning.. This course is only given using RHD (UK) cars! So no LHD cars available.

Under/oversteer is done on a slippery skidpan with an Elise that has front wheels also at the back.

Understeer simply happens if you gently accelerate on the circle and keep on increasing the speed. Easy to play around with.

Keeping it just beore the understeer sets in and lifitng off gives you the liftoff oversteer behaviour, but because speeds are low it's also good to learn and play with.

Power oversteer is not taught as this is normally not an issue on the Elise anyway.

This course is nice (too short of course :D ), but it is geared towards circuit driving and not road driving.

Bye, Arno.
 

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I did the course last year. Yes, there are cheaper courses available, but it is a good one and if you are visiting UK anyway, an excellent idea. This is totally different from a track day - you are being instructed in car the whole day by an Elise specialist.

Remember, it is specifically tailored to Elise driving, whereas a Skip Barber or Panoz or any ohter course is more general. It is also at Hethel, so if you are in to Lotus and want to drive round the same track that Jimmy Clark, Ayrton Senna, and many many others, plus all the Lotus Cars as well - it is all part of the Lotus Elise experience and heritage which of course you can never get with an MX5 (Miata), S 2000, or anything like that. You also get the people who designed the Elise and its handling as some of the instructors.

If you are into the Elise properly, then it is worth it if you can afford it and getting there !! It is done in groups with a competitive element, with trophy's awarded at the end of the day. You also get to do quite a large number of laps of Hethel yourself (with instructor beside you) (something not normally possible for the general public) as well as be driven by one of the instructors at the end to show you how the Elise CAN be driven !! And the best bit - its in THEIR cars, so you don't have to worry about them !!

Mix it with a factory tour ?? Make a group booking and ask for one of the teams to be all Americans - that way you could see how you compare !!

Giles.
 

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James A said:
Panoz track day at Road Atlanta $340 instructors available as much or as little as you need them.
The one day is only $225. I know, I've done about 7 of them. :D
 

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Thank, Arno -- you've answered my question!

Wish a similar course could be offered in the US.
 

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James, Mick,

But that's not really a formal track school, that's a lapping day using your own car? As I recall (this was many years ago) the Road Atlanta track school was round $1000????

The 599 UKPounds as explained to me is a one on one school with car provided.

Chhris
 

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When I enquired last year I was told one on one instruction.
Chris

PS> You can pretty much count on LCU setting up a program in the US along these lines, perhaps at Barber or Road Atlanta? I should think it'll be a year or so before it happens.
 

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Eddie Haskell said:
And have a discount (or FREE) for everybody who bought an Elise. Neil

Neil,
I bet you believe in Santa Claus too......?:D

LCU will do a good school. I think Alastair Mcqueen will have input into it (hope so)> How cool would it be to fly into Atla for a 1-2 track school taught by Alastair, Gavin Kershaw???

Chris
 

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I believe that a couple of group "tours" have already been done by Lotus Limited, that included the "track day" and tours of the factory.

Another good reason to join Lotus Limited...

Tim Mullen
 

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Guys, Lotus has expressed the iintent to do just such a Lotus driving school. As of the LA Auto Show, the plan was to have one location on each side of the country, and I was told that they were in negotiations on this with selected instructors, etc. Don't know what the current status is of this, but I for one would be all over a driving school using the Elise.
 

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Little Bastard said:
And have a discount (or FREE) for everybody who bought an Elise. Neil

Neil,
I bet you believe in Santa Claus too......?:D

LCU will do a good school. I think Alastair Mcqueen will have input into it (hope so)> How cool would it be to fly into Atla for a 1-2 track school taught by Alastair, Gavin Kershaw???

Chris
Hey, crazyer things have happend, It was just a wishful thought (the FREE part).

As for Santa Claus...he is bringing me an Elise this year.

Neil
 
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