[gadget421]

Lotus elise 2001 s1
Honda b16a motor 30000miles
excellent condition,garage kept
3rd owner..was registered in CY,NY and now PA.
no problems.
babied to much.
Asking $28000

problem uploading photos, heres a link..
Lotus Elise S1

PM .. any questions.

 

[gadget421]

thats fine. PM me and i will.
if you want
here the vin... CT38772
run the vin and see
im in PA

 

[Aedo]

thats fine. PM me and i will.
if you want
here the vin... CT38772
run the vin and see
im in PA

That is not a valid VIN - should be something like SCC111YN1YHF?0???

 

[Bruce]

Lotus elise 2001 s1
Honda b16a motor 30000miles
excellent condition,garage kept
3rd owner..was registered in CY,NY and now PA.

Where is CY?

 

[...m...]

...ConnectYcut, i wager...

(T->Y)

 

[codymac]

That is not a valid VIN - should be something like SCC111YN1YHF?0???

It's called a "state assigned VIN" - it's a valid VIN type.
States use them for constructed vehicles, etc.

 

[JoshS]

...ConnectYcut, i wager...

(T->Y)

That's stupid. Everyone knows that's Conneti York

 

[E_Swift]

Did you build this legitimately as a kit car? No...

Yeah, the state could care less, but having/selling/buying this car is a violation of Federal law... The DOT and EPA really are not happy about cars like this running around.

I forget which class of Felony, but I seem to remember it is C for VIN fraud. Depending on a few other things, you could also be liable for insurance fraud. ( But you'd only experience this if there was a crash or a claim)

The EPA reserves the right to "deport" or crush such cars at their discretion, but usually only upon discovery at customs.

So, you "got in in" the country, you're state(s) don't care and have registered and plated it (which is perfectly common), but Federally, the car is not legal.

Wish it actually was "Street Legal"... but it can't!

Sorry to rain on your parade, but those are the facts.

 

[gadget421]

mistake cy is ct.
registered as a kit car.
lotus with honda motor.

 

[gadget421]

the car was built by sun international,ca.
are you calling them fraud.
the vin ct38772
comes from Connecticut, where it was registered as a composite car(kit car)
i don't have a scca vin on the car, was removed and replaced with sun vin.
Did't use that vin to get it registered, CT edited a new vin.
I'm tired of this fereral stuff. Everybody thinks they know everthing.

Don't think I researched it before i bought it?

 

[E_Swift]

are you calling them fraud.

Sounds like it to me.

i don't have a scca vin on the car, was removed and replaced with sun vin.

It is a class C felony to remove a VIN and a D felony to knowingly sell a vehicle with the original VIN removed. These are facts.

Kit cars are fine to register... as long as the car was legal to be here in the first place, and as long as the original VIN remains.

Only if the underlying chassis did not come from another production car with a valid VIN from the factory (which you have already admitted to) can a "constructed," "assembled," or "kit" VIN be rightfully issued.

I'm tired of this fereral stuff. Everybody thinks they know everthing. Don't think I researched it before i bought it?

anic:

F/S thread - no discussions!

I know.... but don't you think this is pretty important?

 

[Aedo]

It's called a "state assigned VIN" - it's a valid VIN type.
States use them for constructed vehicles, etc.

Thanks

 

[...m...]

...cool S1...

 

[gadget421]

cool.
thanks for the input.
I guess i'm just drive it then.
enjoy having a rare car.
there is too much negativity.
maybe i'll turbo it and run 10's.
:wave:

 

[evilfij]

Only if the underlying chassis did not come from another production car with a valid VIN from the factory (which you have already admitted to) can a "constructed," "assembled," or "kit" VIN be rightfully issued.

This is wrong too.

Good luck with the sale.