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Sen. John McCain has picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, CNN learned Friday.


Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, seen in a February photo, will be John McCain's running mate, sources say.

The 44-year-old Palin, who's in her first term as governor, is a pioneering figure in Alaska, the first woman and the youngest person to hold the state's top political job.

She catapulted to the post with a strong reputation as a political outsider, forged during her stint in local politics. She was mayor and a council member of the small town of Wasila and was chairman of the state Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska's oil and gas resources, in 2003 and 2004.

The conservative Palin defeated two so-called political insiders to win the governor's job -- incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski in the GOP primary and former two-term Democratic Gov. Tony Knowles in the 2006 general election.

Palin made her name in part by backing tough ethical standards for politicians. During the first legislative session after her election, her administration passed a state ethics law overhaul.

Palin's term has not been without controversy. A legislative investigation is looking into allegations that Palin fired Alaska's public safety commissioner because he refused to fire the governor's former brother-in-law, a state trooper.

Palin acknowledged that a call was made by a member of her staff to a trooper in which the staffer suggested he was speaking for the governor.

Palin has acknowledged that the call could be interpreted as pressure to fire state trooper Mike Wooten, who was locked in a child-custody battle with Palin's sister.

"I am truly disappointed and disturbed to learn that a member of this administration contacted the Department of Public Safety regarding Trooper Wooten," Governor Palin said. "At no time did I authorize any member of my staff to do so."

Palin suspended the staffer who made the call and the investigation is continuing.

Palin has been focused on energy and natural resource policy during her short stint in office, and is known for her support of drilling in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge, a position opposed by McCain but supported by many grass-roots Republicans.

Her biography on the state governor's Web site says one of the two major pieces of legislation passed during her first legislative session was a competitive process to construct a gas pipeline.

Palin started Alaska's Petroleum Systems Integrity Office -- an oversight and maintenance agency for the state's oil and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure. She created the Climate Change Subcabinet that would forge a climate change strategy, according to the biography.

At present, Palin chairs the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission, a multistate panel "that promotes the conservation and efficient recovery of domestic oil and natural gas resources while protecting health, safety and the environment," the biography says.

She has been named chair of the National Governors Association's Natural Resources Committee. That panel is focused on legislation to make sure that federal policies take state priorities into account in agriculture, energy, environmental protection and natural resource management.

She is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association and takes part in two of Alaska's popular pastimes -- fishing and hunting.

The governor's biography says Palin's other priorities have been "education and workforce development, public health and safety, and transportation and infrastructure development."

The biography touts other achievements during her time as governor -- the investment of $5 billion in state savings, overhauling educational funding, and implementing a program to help low-income elderly Alaskans.

Born in Idaho, she is a longtime Alaskan and a Protestant. Her biography says she arrived in Alaska in 1964, "when her parents came to teach school in Skagway."

She graduated from Wasila High School in 1982 and received a bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987.

Her husband is Todd Palin, who is a lifelong resident of the state and an oil production operator on Alaska's North Slope. They have five children, including a son who enlisted in the Army last year.

Congressional Quarterly notes Palin's other past occupations, including commercial fishing company owner; outdoor recreational equipment company owner; and sports reporter.

Palin also made an unsuccessful run for lieutenant governor in 2002, Congressional Quarterly said.
 

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I am not sure if it is briliant (choosing a woman, get some of those Hillary votes), or idiotic (although she brings youth, it is harder to play the inexperience card against Obama when she would be one heartbeat away from the presidency).

by the way she is also a former (very former I would say) beauty pageant winner....
 

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although she brings youth, it is harder to play the inexperience card against Obama when she would be one heartbeat away from the presidency).
The way I'd spin this is to say I'd rather have the Presidential candidate have experience than the VP candidate. I hope that comes up in a debate.
 

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When Obama picked Biden, I thought to myself, what a completely idiotic choice. A loud-mouthed Senator from Delaware, that'll get a lot of votes.

My next thought was that all McCain had to do was pick a woman and dress her in a pants-suit.

Advantage McCain, no question.
 

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When Obama picked Biden, I thought to myself, what a completely idiotic choice. A loud-mouthed Senator from Delaware, that'll get a lot of votes.

My next thought was that all McCain had to do was pick a woman and dress her in a pants-suit.Advantage McCain, no question.
we already have 1 hillary and thats more than enough.
 

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both tickets have one older, experienced and one younger up and coming....one has an African American, the other a woman....

The way I see it, McCain may be able to get a fair number of woman voters over to his side now...Obama already has the great majortiy of the African American vote, and is even or slightly ahead in the polls...

I agree, advantage McCain (at least until the debates):panic:
 

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I think he may have just clinched the election. I like Biden but by selecting a respected female running mate, McCain has now appealed to the disinfranchised democrates. If the country was split 40/60 before in favor of the Dems, this move would change the polls in favor of the republicans 69/31.
 

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Brilliant. I was initially dissapointed in Gov. Pawlenty being the frontrunner. I like him as our governer, but he wouldn't have added much flair to the ticket.
 

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Basically to me this whole thing comes down to one issue and one issue only:

Get the **** out of Iraq.

Basically either administration is going to equally mess up everything else. It's not like I really expect Obama to really be able to get universal health care through congress or to raise taxes all that much (and I make less than $250K/year anyway), but I do believe that Obama will be able to get us out of Iraq.

McCain = at least 4 more years in Iraq
Obama = less than two more years in Iraq

Just two years of NOT spending $2 Billion a week in Iraq gives us more than $100 Billion to spend on social programs here. Given the choice to continue a completely unjustified war at $2 Billion a week OR use that money on some 'social programs' here in the U.S., I'll pick the far lessor of two evils.
 

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I think Mccain has ****ed himself here, and here is why.

Mccain picked her to try and cash in on unhappy hillary voters, the problem is, the convention pretty much smoothed that out, and most are going to back Obama now.
Thats fail number one.

Fail number two is that the conservative base that had a hard enough time swallowing him as THEIR candidate to begin with, now would be electing a woman to VP and potentially President provided Mccain has to leave office due to health issues(Not likely, but possible) Culturally conservative voters will have a very hard time voting for a woman. Period. Notice I didnt say FISCALLY conservative voters which many of you on this board are.

The bottom line is that Hillary voters are pro choice....just because Mccain picked a women, doesn't mean they will abandon one of the STRONGEST political views they have, and the conservative base will not elect a women as VP.


Mccain loses, game over
 

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Basically to me this whole thing comes down to one issue and one issue only:

Get the **** out of Iraq.

Basically either administration is going to equally mess up everything else. It's not like I really expect Obama to really be able to get universal health care through congress or to raise taxes all that much (and I make less than $250K/year anyway), but I do believe that Obama will be able to get us out of Iraq.

McCain = at least 4 more years in Iraq
Obama = less than two more years in Iraq

Just two years of NOT spending $2 Billion a week in Iraq gives us more than $100 Billion to spend on social programs here. Given the choice to continue a completely unjustified war at $2 Billion a week OR use that money on some 'social programs' here in the U.S., I'll pick the far lessor of two evils.
I think the timeline to get out of Iraq will already be signed with the Iraqi government before the next person gets in. Are you saying Obama is going to break that agreement?
 

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Oh, and btw all you people worried about Obama raising your taxes...


ObamaTaxCut.com

Check for yourself

Keep in mind the massive inflation that has occurred during this last administration....Obama would reduce the deficit and get us out of IRAQ, two things that will greatly improve the dollar.

Just because Bush gave you more dollars, doesnt mean you have more purchasing power. Our money is worth 50%less vs the euro than it was 8 years ago.


**Edit, Id get $1422 tax cut under Obama, but pay $791 more under Mccain/bush's current plan
 

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I think it's a pretty savvy move on the McCain campaign's part. It will be interesting to see how that translates to actual votes (I've heard that the choice of running mate often has little or no real influence on this except in rare instances such as a very poor choice such as a Dan Quayle for example), but we'll see.
 

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I think Mccain has ****ed himself here, and here is why.

Mccain picked her to try and cash in on unhappy hillary voters, the problem is, the convention pretty much smoothed that out, and most are going to back Obama now.
Thats fail number one.

Fail number two is that the conservative base that had a hard enough time swallowing him as THEIR candidate to begin with, now would be electing a woman to VP and potentially President provided Mccain has to leave office due to health issues(Not likely, but possible) Culturally conservative voters will have a very hard time voting for a woman. Period. Notice I didnt say FISCALLY conservative voters which many of you on this board are.

The bottom line is that Hillary voters are pro choice....just because Mccain picked a women, doesn't mean they will abandon one of the STRONGEST political views they have, and the conservative base will not elect a women as VP.


Mccain loses, game over

I take it you're a D?

I can assure you, it's a well thought out choice-
 
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