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If you made a U shaped enclosure around the air compressor and lined it with sound dampening panels, the compressor would be a lot more acceptable.

Sorry hearing about your experience with epoxy floor paint. There are lots of brands out there. The best will literally last 20 years being subjected to acids, etc. They will not show wear or lift due to hot tires.

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Good thought on the compressor noise thing. I have enough leftover building materials to fabricate something as you describe. Only thing I have to decide is do I want to put in the effort for the level of inconvenience, and will it look nice enough when done.

Agrre with the epoxy paint statements. I have seen some really nice professional level really expensive coatings. If at some point I think the floor looks sufficiently bad to redo it I'll definately upgrade. I think the ones that have flecks probably do a better kob of hidings stains also.
 

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A few thoughts on artwork.

Framed artwork makes it look much, much better than unframed artwork. The problem is expense. There are several ways to go.

OPTION 1 - Places like Michaels and AC Moore have plenty of standard sized frames at various prices that are affordable if the thing you want framed comes in one of the standard sizes. Keep in mind, even if your piece is a standard size, if it has any significant value - either historic or monetary - you would probably opt for Option 2. Keep this is mind when buying inexpensive artwork. There is nothing more shocking than buying a $20 poster (or getting it free), then going to the framing place and finding it will cost $400 to frame it.

OPTION 2 - Get the item custom framed. I use the same stores, but wait for the 60% off sales. Even then it can be frightfullyexpensive if you pick an expensive fram, with double matting, and museum quality non-glare glass. I have found that using a simple metal fram with a single or no mat (with the exception of items I really want to embellish) and plexiglass is the least expensive custom alternative.

If you are planning an event and are planning on doing event artwork, do yourself and the participants who will buy or get free an event poster a favor. Have it made in a standard size.

To highlight the difference between framed and unframed, refer to the LOG 26 poster in post 177 to the framed version below. It makes a big difference in presentation (and don't ask what it cost).
 

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The 1970 F1 season started poorly for Team Lotus with a few points earned for both Rindt and MIles in the first round at Kyalami and no points for Rindt and a DNQ for Miles at Jarama. It didn't taketoo long to turn around though as Rindt took the aging Type 49 in C configuration to a win at Monaco. After retiring at Spa, he knocked off 4 wins in a rown at the Dutch, French, British,and German GP's. Coming into the Austrian GP at the Osterreichring the Austrian had to be ecstatic to have their man leading the championship in such a commanding fashion. Not surprisingly the Lotus 49 was featured on the event artwork! The driver pictured is Hill, now driving for Rob Walker's team. For Team Lotus, Rindt, and his fellow countrymen, however, the Austrian GP was a disappointment as Rindt retired after taking pole on lap 22 with a blown engine. Things got worse for all involved from there as at the next GP in Italy - Monza - Rindt lost his life when he crashed his Lotus 72 in practice. He was still handily leading the championship at the time. Rindt went on to be the only posthumous champion in F1 history after Emerson Fittipaldi won the following USGP at Watkins Glen (see post 132).



I include this image of the event poster of the 1970 Austrian GP partially to give an opportunity to further expound to the unknowing a significant part of Lotus' history. But also to thank a fellow Lotus Talk member -gospeedv8. After seeing this thread Dragi (gospeedv8) generously took it upon himself to add to the Barn. He just up and sent me the poster. I really don't know what else to say but Thank you.. Thank you Dragi for being a genuinely generous Lotus guy. The poster is now a treasured part of my Lotus collection, and as I proudly show my Barn to those interested I'll be sure to tell the story of Dragi, from Austria, who sent me the Austrian GP poster.

Danke Shoen mein Freund
 

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Kyle,

I just wanted to say thanks for sharing the photos of your garage and cars. The history on the collection and the individual cars is fascinating. I tried to buy a Lotus Sport 110 frame set (unused, new old stock) on eBay four years ago. I bid as much as I could tolerate and then added $1000 and still missed it in the last second of the auction.

The details and thought put into your garage are very helpful for someone planning to build. I just added a second MGTC to my stable, so I completely understand how things can get "out of control". I'm at the point of making a hard decision about building a second garage now, or waiting to build the Garage Mahal at our next house. I already have a closet stacked up with garage art and no garage wall space to hang them on. :(

Thanks again,
John
 

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Its not a problem Kyle. I saw the pics in this thread and knew it has to be yours.
Its cool to see it on the wall in your barn, kyle. Very cool.
A austrian F1-character gave me that poster some years ago. I'm happy its yours now.

Danke Shoen mein Freund
Es ist mir eine Ehre!:bow:

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AIR CONDITIONING

It was an obvious choice to heat the Barn as I intended the Winter months to be the time I did all of the scheduled maintainence on the cars. Air conditioning really wasn't an option. The expense of doing a cooling unit for such a large building was too much. Besides, I thought, the giant slab of concrete will stay cool even in the Summer and provide some measure of cooling. And it does, but in the midst of Summer with humidity levels way up, and putting in some physical effort to fix an unforseen problem, the sweat pours out like oil from a British car.

So I looked into a cooling system. A full on AC unit is still out of the question. I spoke with another Lotus enthusiast who was looking into building a similar structure for his collection, only in FL where cooling is the priority and heating is not needed! The solution in FL is to dig a well and then use geothermal cooling of a kind where cold water from the ground is fed through piping in the concrete slab to keep it a chilly 55F. This is a doable soultion, but would still run several thousand dollars by the time a dedicated well was dug and a pump etc was installed.

So what to do? The answer for me was cheap and easy. The giant Barn fan. THese are readily available at your local Tractor Supply (TSC) or Ag center. THey come in a variety of sizes. Generally run nor more than a couple of hundred dollars and move a LOT of air. Since TSC had them on sale - and they had one in green - I bought one.

Even across the Barn it still creates enough of a breeze to move a ribbon (see pics). I found it also comes in handy to air the Barn out after I've started a few cars - especially the old one that have some oil burn off on start up after sitting for a while.

This particular fan is just over 3 feet wide at the case, and has low and high speed settings. The bottom pic is with the fan on the high setting.
 

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...i've used geothermal chillers on a few projects i've done in the texas hill country, and it works well, but while its operational costs are indeed improved, its installation costs aren't notably less than purchasing a more-traditional compressor air conditioning system - in fact, geothermal systems can cost a bit more to construct...

...as your your solution, kyle, ever if you have need for more airflow, i'm rather fond of big ass fans' industrial products...
 

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i suspect that if the in-floor piping was installed at the original construction, it may mitigate a lot of the cost.
another well though, would be pricey, depending on the location.
ohio would require a few feet, here in washington, pa. area is another story.
my meager 24 x 24' garage is well cooled by a 5k btu cheapie in the window.
it doesn't cool so much as it dehumidifies and the floor does have a lot of thermal mass for the days.
i think the humidity is a large part of the discomfort problem.
beautiful setup, kyle.
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Sam raises a point that I had thought and will now ask: What about humidity? It is one thing to ventilate with the large fan. Another thing to lower the temp with a cold floor. But what about the moisture, especially if it is condensing on leather seats, etc?
 

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Nice, you should create a virtual site that you can pan around the room, zoom and point to things to get details info.

Enjoy!

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kmhepler, I live near soggy Houston and keeping the humidity down is the main objective. I have an air conditioner that I use when I'm working in the garage and three stand-alone dehumidifiers that run 24/7. Two are in the garage and one in the garage attic (a.k.a. The auto parts storage area). Mine are Frigidaire units that are relatively quiet and I ran a hose and pvc pipe to allow the moisture to drain outside. The difference is worth it, especially in Houston!

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Sam raises a point that I had thought and will now ask: What about humidity? It is one thing to ventilate with the large fan. Another thing to lower the temp with a cold floor. But what about the moisture, especially if it is condensing on leather seats, etc?
Yes, you are absolutely correct. It not the heat, it's the humidity.

When I was a guest of Lotus Sport in Phoenix, I took a specially arranged (for the Lotus SPort hangers on) race driving course at Bondurant. Steve Hansen - one of the Team drivers had arranged it. I was surprised at how much I sweated in the cars, and equally surprised with how quickly the sweat disappeared.

I also got a tour of the restoration shop Hansen used for his Lotus 51 and other projects. It was so dry in the shops they actually used a water spray system to cool things off not worrying one bit that it would cause rust.

But here in PA it is a different story. So far I have had 2 Summers in the Barn. This one has been a particularly rainy one, though the temps have been lower. So far humidity has not been a problem as far as the general condition of the Barn. Except when I am involved in labor.

The fan serves it's purpose well. While it can not lower the humidity it does produce convective cooling, and since humidity is not 100% helps with evaporative cooling as well.

If I had unlimited funds and more experience I would have done many things different with the Barn. One would be a cooling/dehumidifying system built into the infrastructure. As it is I am averse to cluttering up the place with things strewn about, so I'll stick with the fan, then if things get bad enough, and more funds become available (which won't happen cuz I'll spend them on more Lotus instead) I'll consider some kind of central unit installed in the attic.
 

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Enjoyed the tour of the collection and garage!

Have you gotten the X180-R running yet?
What injectors was it running?
Thank you.

THe X180R is now running. Replacing the primary injectors got it running, but it sputtered at full power. Replacing the secondaries improved it but didn't make it great. Next step is to look at the turbo.

Original injectors are Rochester units that I could not cross reference from any web site. replaced injectors are JAE - Vintage and late model Lotus car parts specialists units.

I have decided to dedicate 1 day a month to work on the X180R. Maybe in a few years she'll be back on track - literally!
 

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I hope those who have and who will read this thread will enjoy it, learn something and come away with a greater appreciation for and enthusiasm for Lotus.
:up: Big time, Kyle! I'm sorry I missed your thread until now. Thanks very much for opening your place to us and taking so much time time to fill us in on the fascinating details. Dig that Plus2; beautiful!

Could I trouble you to name the artist who painted the image in post #146? I recognize his work, but I can't place the name...
 

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:up: Big time, Kyle! I'm sorry I missed your thread until now. Thanks very much for opening your place to us and taking so much time time to fill us in on the fascinating details. Dig that Plus2; beautiful!

Could I trouble you to name the artist who painted the image in post #146? I recognize his work, but I can't place the name...
Glad you enjoyed it. It is amazing how under-represented the Plus 2 is in Lotus collector circles and how much feedback I get on how many people love it. I think it is second only to the original Elite in beauty.

The image on post 146 is repeated here for the viewers convenience. The artist is Bernie Fuchs.

The caption on the print reads:

Official Commemorative Poster Serieies for the Seventy-Fifth Inianapolis 500. Painting by Bernie Fuchs

There is a logo in the cut out the is the diamond anniversary logo on the 75th Indy 500.
 

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