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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=125288



So basically...



260 hp, 260 lb-ft of torque. I imagine this is the same engine being offered by that company as a conversion for Elises/Exiges :p


Quicker than a Mazdaspeed3 or even a Porsche Boxster. 14.0 second 1/4 mile at 104 mph trap speed.



Edmunds claims it even handles really well.


Less than $25k.



Sounds like a bargain.
 

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And it actually looks good! The Cobalt is a popular platform for modification. One of my wife's employees has a Cobalt that he's modified quite heavily. There's apparently a good supply of after-market stuff for them. Every time I stop by work to say hi to my wife, he and I end up checking out the latest additions to his ride. Maybe Chevy's noticed-it looks like they've taken the best of the tuner stuff and made one of their own.

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260bhp is probably close to the limit of a properly setup FWD car for road racing, maybe 300bhp being the absolute limit. I too have heard good things about the handling on the new Cobalt SS. However, truth is on a road course, FWD cars will never be able to be competitive beyond the touring car classes.

That's why I made my Focus RWD rotfl
 

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260bhp is probably close to the limit of a properly setup FWD car for road racing, maybe 300bhp being the absolute limit.
Yup... my Altima SE-R is 260hp stock and when you accelerate hard it really does go all over the place... and that is a big car. In a small car I can imagine it being even more erratic.
 

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Yup... my Altima SE-R is 260hp stock and when you accelerate hard it really does go all over the place... and that is a big car. In a small car I can imagine it being even more erratic.
Well I meant for that weight class. With a midsize car like the Altima you can probably put more horses into it provided that the suspension and tires are properly set up.
 

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260bhp is probably close to the limit of a properly setup FWD car for road racing, maybe 300bhp being the absolute limit. I too have heard good things about the handling on the new Cobalt SS. However, truth is on a road course, FWD cars will never be able to be competitive beyond the touring car classes.

That's why I made my Focus RWD rotfl
Costas' M100 Elan rates at 362hp (437hp w NOS)
 

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"Putting this much power in a front wheel drive car has a name, it's called the chaos theory."

See 2:55 or so for a torque steer demonstration.

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It also has a "no lift shift" feature which is exactly what it sounds like; you have 3/10ths of a second to shift gears with your foot slammed on the gas to keep boost levels up :p



It also has LAUNCH control that they actually encourage you to use. They put a really strong clutch in there.



So sure, maybe FWD isn't the best for a sports car, but this is really a little econo box, and look at all that comes with it.



I don't know, I'd put it on my list somewhere :p
 

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Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great little sport compact for that price. It certainly beats out all the other FWD compact cars in that price range.
 

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finally a ricer for the white boys. rotfl:p
 

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I am taking one of these Cobalt SS's on a road trip next week :cool:


finally a ricer for the white boys. rotfl:p

:no: Don't forget about the Neon SRT-4 and Caliber SRT-4
 

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I am taking one of these Cobalt SS's on a road trip next week :cool:





:no: Don't forget about the Neon SRT-4 and Caliber SRT-4
By all accounts the Caliber SRT-4 isn't much and is an extremely poor/disappointing substitute/replacement for the Neon SRT-4. All the magazines (for what that's worth) pretty much see the Caliber, even in SRT-4 form, as a waste of metal, plastic, and rubber.
 

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"Putting this much power in a front wheel drive car has a name, it's called the chaos theory."

See 2:55 or so for a torque steer demonstration.

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That was a good video. I especially like the comments;

About torque steering:
"That is torque steering the car and it's good if you want to go left."

About horsepower:
"You can give it a million horsepower but if the chassis can't put it on the road...pointless!"

At the end:
"It is exciting in the same way that being shot at is exciting."

Good stuff. rotfl
 

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Should i be afraid?
 
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