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C35 LOTUS ESPRIT TRANSAXLE

Approximately 6,074 Esprits were made with Citroen DS/SM transaxle and inboard disc brakes. Lotus 910 engine can be easily modified to deliver more power, but the transmission is the weak link. Citroen SM/DS gear box was used on all Lotus Esprit models from 1975 to 1988 MY.
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Citroën 5 speed gear box was designed in late 60-s for normally aspirated delivery vans with engines producing maximum 170 ft lbs of torque. On Esprits these gearboxes came in 2 versions, early on S1, S2, and starting with S3 Esprit in early 1984, C35 version.
It is important to distinguish early Esprit units (S1 & S2) from the later cars: The shift lever on the gearbox (fore/aft lever as opposed to the side/side cross-gate cable actuator) is on the left hand side on the early cars. The S3 and Turbo cars had a new Lotus specific gearbox top cover with the lever relocated to the right side. This moved the shift linkage to the engine intake side and away from the hot exhaust. Heat from the early cars exhaust system would cook the plastic bushings in the mechanical shift linkage in short order. The result would be very sloppy linkage after only limited exposure to the heat.

Citroën transaxle was never designed to handle the power of Turbo 910 engine. Initially, Lotus used this tranny in N/A 160 Hp 907/ 912 powered Esprits, and that was a good match. But, when they stepped up to the 910 engine, they took the Citroen box beyond its original design intent. Citroën made some changes to the C35 version of the gearbox that were supposed to strengthen it, but it was still marginal for Turbo Esprits.

Common sense called for a stronger Crown Wheel & Pinion (CWP) for this british Super-car, but at the time, there were no high performance options on the market and Lotus didn't want to spend any money.
If you avoid dumping the clutch at the stoplight and don't slam-shift thru the gears, then the Citroen transaxle is perfectly up to the stock 910 engine. Not much fun and everybody would think that your grandma sits behind the steering wheel, LOL.

On Citroen DS/SM cars and vans, the gear box is positioned in front of the engine which makes the CWP design correct for driving car forward.
Esprit is equipped with the same box as DS/SM, but flipped around 180 deg and placed behind the mid-riff engine, which causes the internals rotating backwards!
Pinion is always trying to "escape", i.e. climb up the slope (coast side) of the crown wheel teeth exerting excessive loads on the pinion bearing, often resulting in casing cracks!
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FYI: There is a very good, U.S. source for some of the gearbox parts: SM World, in the Valley on the north side of Los Angeles. The shop is owned by Jerry & Sylvia Hathaway, who are extremely competent and helpful. SM World is possibly the best Citroen SM repair and restoration facility, as recognized by the Citroen factory:
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TRANSMISSION CITROEN SM, C35 REBUILD:
Lotus Turbo did a sort of "Zen Guide to Lotus Gearbox Rebuilds" which is here somewhere and might help...

Crown wheel and pinion are made of special hardened alloy steel and are matching pair with numbers.
They come from the factory in following ratios.
Standard 8/35 (4.375:1), passenger cars
Special 7/34 ( 4.857:1), vans and trucks

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The weak points of C35 are:
Crown wheel carrier inferior quality bearings, input shaft circlip, weak crown wheel gear running "backwards", weak casing at the pinion bearing.

Like I said before, Citroen C35 gearbox was designed to run in front wheel drive Citroen DS/SM with engine at the front (behind the box). For Lotus configuration the whole gearbox was "flipped around" and placed behind the mid-ship engine, thus the CWP and all internals run "backwards"! Not the best situation!

Ideally, the pinion gear should rotate crown wheel on the drive side of the teeth. If however, the CW is driven on the coast side, strength of the gear set can be reduced by as much as ~30%.
Therefore, the CWP on Esprit is weak in forward drive and its strength is much better in overrun!

Similar problem has been discovered in Land Rover front differential, which got resolved very elegantly. http://www.kamdiffs.com/products-2/diff-ratio/
As it is mentioned in 2015 on KAM website, in the OEM front axle of Land Rover the gear set is running “backwards”, being driven on the coast side of the teeth rather than the driven side and as such, it is inherently weaker. Reverse cut gear set was required to remedy this problem!
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Consequently, a similar solution would benefit Esprit owners.
Beefed up CWP with revised ratio and correct rotation would fix for 90% of the C35 problems. Cryogenic treatment and and REMS ISF Superfinsh would provide additional strength.
I decided to look in depth into this (overlooked for years!) Esprit CWP problem.

FYI:
In spiral bevel gears, any offset of the pinion from the crown wheel center line is hypoid, and the further off axis the greater the hypoid effect.
The Citroen and Renault UN-1 pinions are at their crown wheel's center line axis, so they are technically, spiral bevel gears, not hypoid.

FYI:

Here is what Tim Engel wrote about Citroen box:
910 engine has a lot of untapped power potential, and you can easily create a monster that doesn't play well with others... i.e. the 910 will beat up on the Citroen box.

In normal use, the 1-2 synchros take a beating because they generally get used more often and harder. 5th synchros wear because there's a big step between 4th & 5th, and the synchro is asked to do a lot of work with each shift (apply pressure, don't rush it). Replace synchros whenever you're in there just to keep them fresh, but there isn't an optional Porsche-style synchro system available. It's typical of how French transmissions shift... "They all do that, sir".

If you wish to shift more quickly, install a Porsche transaxle and tell us all how you did it. There is no "standard" swap we can tell you about. The baulk-ring style synchro shifts at it's own pace and doesn't like to be slam-shifted. Apply pressure and wait for it to happen. If you force it, you'll just frustrate yourself and/or grind up precious metal. There are often message threads on this list that go something like... Graunch, graunch, graunch...
"Why does my transaxle grind when I shift gears?" Usually, it comes out in further conversation that the owner wants to shift FASTER. Well, maybe it is possible the synchros are actually old and worn out. But more often than not, it's because somebody is playing boy-racer, and trying to speed-shift baulk-ring synchros that, by design, don't like fast... and without having a clue how to match rpm-s. Slow down and shift the way the Citroen (Renault) is supposed to be shifted, or learn how to drive. But don't be blaming or flogging the gearbox.

BTW, of the two Esprit trans-axles, the Citroen responds better to rpm matching than the UN1... or Europa. I can shift up and down from 1st thru 4th without the clutch, but 5th is a little more challenging. The Europas I've owned would never put up with that, and the Esprit Renault UN1 doesn't like it either. I'm not recommending shifting without the clutch, just suggesting that the Citroen's synchros do appreciate a little help from a driver who knows how to match rpms, and it would be a good thing for you to learn... as opposed to "fixing" the gearbox.
Harry Martens and JAE both offer (do... did... ??) a Quaife limited slip differential for the Citroen. The claim is that it's the solution for handling more power.
Of course, the limited slip will help put the added power to the road. But I get lost in the claims I thought I heard about it protecting other internal parts, like the CWP. That's where I get lost. If the power goes to one wheel, and the one tire breaks traction and spins, that's your safety valve. Loss of traction at one wheel happens at a torque level the CWP can handle, and adding more power after that just spins the tire faster without putting more power to the road.

If you install a limited slip differential, then power goes to both rear wheels pretty much equally. Both rear tires are sharing the load, and it takes a lot more torque to break loose and spin two tires instead of one.
That puts more load on the CWP, not less. I believe the premise of the claims is that if the one driving wheel hits a slick spot on the road and spins-up, then gets good rip on a clean spot (sandy to clean, or wet to dry), then all the spinning energy slams into the CWP when the tires finally bite.
That shock-energy is what kills the CWP, and the limited slip prevents (well, minimizes) the possibility of wildly spinning the tires with stock power. However, adding lots of horsepower can then spin both rear tires together pretty much at will. Then when both tires do bite, there will be even more violent inertia slamming into the CWP. The stock CWP didn't get any stronger when the limited slip diff was installed, it can only support so much torque and shock, and shock loads will strip off teeth. That gets us back to the repeating theme of all this... the Citroen transaxle was never originally designed to deal with the 910's power potential, there are no aftermarket hotrod parts available for it, and you need to deal with that. Or trade up to an SE.
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Anyone ever priced out the reworked CWP option for a group buy?
Yes, I did RFQ in March 2015.

Since then, I tried to "persuade" OEM chaps to provide me with copy of the CWP blueprint. Old blueprint would be useless in this case, but it could have been used for tracing some general dimensions.
To no avail, though. I think they probably tossed it decades ago.

Long story short:
including cost of reverse engineering, tooling made for the cutters, lappers, tester/proto and production set up, the cost would be $1,800 per set, not including taxes, shipping and insurance. Not expensive, comparing to prices charged by the "usual suspects" for the same "weak" parts.

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ESPRIT GEAR RATIOS

Standard OE Citroen C35 CWP ratio of 8/35 (4.375:1) x gear ratio are shown in black.
Red shows favorable 1st/2nd gear ratio step of the UN1 Holloway upgrade kit.

Beefed up CWP would open an ample opportunity for all G-car+88 US ET engine upgrades!
It could be achieved by reducing teeth count of the pair increasing their flank thickness.
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Here's a few pictures of the aforementioned tool (in action) that I made for removal / installation of the speedo gear:







The flats on the speedo gear are on the back side and very narrow. The tool makes access easy and in the limited space and, with jaw closure bracket mounted, it keeps the jaws of the tool from spreading when applying loosening or tightening torque, thereby eliminating the probability of rounding off the flats on the gear.

When I rebuilt the box on my S1, I sourced several parts from SM World. And a used Citroen CWP from Harry Martens. Both sources were extremely helpful. The used CWP, by virtue of its previous reverse rotation life in a Citroen, was brand new for my purposes. And since I don't dump the clutch from standing stops, the Citroen box has proven fully trouble-free in my hot rodded S1, and likewise, in both of my '84 Turbos.



Here's another nice tool that I made that has proven helpful. A nice little flywheel locking tool:



Removal of the starter motor provides clear access to the flywheel and the lock drops right into place. Easy peezy.
 

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I just remembered something about the Citroen gearbox that is important to distinguish early Esprit units (S1 & S2) from the later cars: The shift lever on the gearbox (fore/aft lever as opposed to the side/side cross-gate cable actuator) is on the left hand side on the early cars. The S3 and Turbo cars had a new Lotus specific gearbox top cover with the lever relocated to the right side. This moved the shift linkage to the engine intake side and away from the exhaust. Heat from the early cars exhaust system would cook the plastic bushings in the mechanical shift linkage in short order. The result would be very sloppy linkage after only limited exposure to the heat.
 

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Nice tools Ron!
Thank you for sharing your ingenious ideas. "Need is a mother of all inventions"

2 yrs ago, I missed these tools on eBay. Somebody got them for a song.
What are they for?
 

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I have a rebuild toolkit that has all of the stuff you need to dismantle and rebuild a Citroen gearbox. It included clamps for the bearing saddles, a CWP height tool, a socket for removing the speedo drive gear, plus various modified tools to make the job simpler. It also contains a selection of spacers, shims, circlips and other service parts (no bearings or gears) that you can use when rebuilding your box - just replace them with the good parts out of your box that you won't be using. I don't guarantee that every spacer or shim you need will be in the kit - you probably will need to order some of your own, but if you can use them - great! It has been sent around the country at least a dozen times and is available on request. All you pay is shipping both ways.
 

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WOW, good to know!

Thank you Mike.

I'm wondering, if you could share with us some other tricks in caring/rebuilding C35 transmission?

I started this one because a thread dedicated to Citroen transmissions would definitely benefit earlier Esprit owners. There was a thread like this on (now defunct) Lotus Buzz, but no more.:crying:

PS. THANK YOU RON for great pictures!
 

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Citroen CWP group buy

Anyone ever priced out the reworked CWP option for a group buy?
Yes, I did RFQ in March 2015.

Since then, I tried to "persuade" OEM chaps to provide me with copy of the CWP blueprint. Old blueprint would be useless in this case, but it could have been used for tracing some general dimensions.
To no avail, though. I think they probably tossed it decades ago.

Long story short:
including cost of reverse engineering, tooling made for the cutters, lappers, tester/proto and production set up, the cost would be $1,800 per set, not including taxes, shipping and insurance.

What say you?
 

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As far as care goes, don't rush your shifts. That is probably the most important thing to remember. The gearbox is running at the top end of its spec in an Esprit, and hammering it with power shifts is the quick way to problems. They will last a good long time if you take that extra half second between gears.

Rebuilding is a time consuming, futzy process that requires several disassembly/reassembly cycles of subcomponents - like setting up the preload on the differential and then adjusting crownwheel backlash once the pinion height has been set. Even with good measuring tools and a spreadsheet, you are looking at a minimum of 3 cycles to get everything dialed in. Having the proper tools helps a lot, but expect to place an extra order for an oddball shim or spacer, or running down to your local machine shop to have a thicker one ground down to what you need. It also makes all kinds of sense to replace bearings while you are in there, particularly if you suspect or find CWP damage.

There are some quirks about them. For example, the bell housing is also half of the bearing race for the differential bearings. This means that the bell housing was machined with the rest of the gearbox case as a unit. So, you can't just swap the housings around, as the bearing races will most likely not be round. It is also impossible to determine if you have a buggered pinion with the shaft installed in the box. The teeth are arranged such that you just can't see the working face even with a mirror. If you are faced with replacing the CWP, it is very worthwhile to spend the time dialing in the proper pinion height and crownwheel backlash - getting these right has a direct correlation to future failure.

One of these days I want to make a series of videos that detail how to work with the thing, but it seems I never have the opportunity to do a "leisurely" rebuild - I always want to get it back in the car in a hurry. Someday...
 

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$1,800 is a bit much for my budget for a potential need, but if the price comes down with a group buy I'd be in, as the true cost comparison is with a transaxle swap to a Renault or better alternative. Of course if/when it breaks (without taking out the case) 1,800 may look cheap after discounting the cost of another used backwards Citroen CWP.

When I put in my LSD, I could see marks of a past failure, so it does have my attention!
 

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Does anyone know the PN# for the pinion shaft bearing (it is an INA (Schaffler) roller bearing , I think)?
 

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When I put in my LSD, I could see marks of a past failure, so it does have my attention!
The circular 'polish' marks to the right side of your picture are the result of crownwheel carrier bearing failure.

@mike.griese is correct, the preload and backlash adjustments are REALLY finicky. I had my output shaft housings in & out more than 15 times (prob because that was my first time) getting the preload correct. :wallbang: And, that was using Mike's handy tool-set.
 

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After reading all this, it makes me want to build an electric/battery version of the esprit.
So that the maximum torque will be applied at zero RPM? :rolleyes:




Replacing the input shaft circlip with the more robust one (at ~45K miles), and at the same time replacing the differential carrier bearings (again, with the more durable SKF or Timken bearings made today) goes a long way to prevent the common Citroen transmission issues.

These repairs are no more involved than replacing a clutch.

The trial-and-error preload adjustments commonly needed to be performed on the solid rear axles of older rear-wheel-drive cars too, so it's not reasonable to complain. That's how it was done 'back in the day'.
 
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