[Bavarian Motorist]

Great news... I was holding off on the group buy for the SuperCharger hoping someone would make one that offered a bigger bang, the first ones didn't seem too offer much over a stock engine setup.

The "first ones" do offer much over a stock engine. You can drive mine when it's finished and see for yourself -poke- But this is going to blow them away. You'll be seeing turbocharger-like power




Put me on the list of buyers!!!!

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

I'm remarking about your 'costly' statement, a reflash from me for these types of kits costs $600 base, thats it nothing else is needed, it'll be safer and have as much power as the standalone stuff, and it'll pass sniffer and OBD II, you need an efi standalone, a harness, and tuning, which is considerably more, yes you can retune to your hearts content and if thats your goal you ought to install a standalone, but it'll cost a lot more in the long run.

i charge $100 ph at the dyno, for the intial tuning, if its not right or needs tweaking, i don't charge addtional fees, even if it needs a few times , i don't charge for street tuning either, and other people get the benefit of any custom tuning since i can provide those updates, the last time i did that it was $25.

i think those going the way of a standalone are being true to the spirit of the hacker, and i wholly support that, but as with life you're taking a tiny percentile.

I just don't see where you get 'costly' from, thats all

In other words...




Charlie is God...



And a great guy to do business with! :nanner2::nanner2::nanner2:

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

As long as charge temperatures remain reasonable, should reliability be a problem?

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

I'd drive to Kansas for this...

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

Would you like directions?




Phil

Sure, if you have a working model available :coolnana: I'm not sure where you are in the process.

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

Subscribed!

Didn't read this whole thread, but it sounds like this can be a bolt/add-on to the BWR or Katana kit?
If so, I'm in....price?

You mean you didn't read the 1st post :shrug:

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

Phil, can you compare the down-low power vs the MP62?

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

If the BWR or Sector kits have not become carb compliant yet, there's no way any other kit, which would probably be sold in much lower quantities, will do it either.

If you want CARB compliance, wait for the Lotus sold kit.

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

That's amazing how much torque it has at even 2000-3000 RPM

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

torque numbers are on the right side...not the left

Obviously... The torque output is very high at that RPM.

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

What should we expect to pay for an uprated fuel delivery system? Any approximations?

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

MaineLotus, how did you end up sealing that hole? Did you just use the same 5 remaining screwholes or did you take any extra measures? I ask because it seems like one more thing that would rattle a lot.

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

I like that quote and philosophy

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

Seems logical to replace the pump and be done with it. Why cheap out on a $150 part? There's good evidence that it's not even marginal. People here are considering a $3,000+ upgrade from BOE and they're debating a $150 part? rotfl

Only the know-it-alls are debating it. It's not even a question for me...

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

Understood...and again if you gain back at least 10ft lbs TQ to compensate for lower CR than you would be around where I am...184tq, although I'm still running with 1 lb less boost.

Is it also true that a lower compression runs cooler temps? Someone mentioned that to me but Im not sure how much cooler the difference could be.

Peak numbers are very similar, but I don't think the powerband would be near as meaty with the MP62...

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

Not bad... I guess we'll have to wait to see the final products to see which one is faster :evil:



And no matter how you slice it, you can't argue with almost 290whp and 190 lb-ft of torque (on the MP62)

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

I can't wait for this upgrade to be available... Is the final hardware prepared and available? I presume testing procedures are currently in progress. I will wait for a reflash type of tune...

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

Hmm.. Wonder what else can be done to strengthen the chassis short of adding a roll cage?



Just adding to the armchair talk (takes a slow, mellow cigar puff)

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

I have some EFI questions before committing...

1. How does it affect emissions inspection, or OBD emissions testing, or whatever kind of testing is done at the time of inspection?

2. How difficult is it to install properly and un-install properly? Approximate labor time?

3. How difficult is it to tune?



That's all

 

[Bavarian Motorist]

Can't really debate much said, just don't know enough about the physics involved. But still doesn't seem like that is a good measure of drag -- physical reality of the size and shape of a Mustang GT front windshield is no where near as "slippery" as that of my S.

Does CD include the downforce greated with the air flowing up thru the nose into radiators? Can't believe that produces more drag than air hitting a perpendicular flat radiator in a Mustang GT. The Mustang GT also has NO undertray, plenty of odd drag inducing shapes for the air to find it's way around.

So what specifically is causing such a high CD?

Where's Adrian Newey when ya need him

xtn - yes you are correct (and no that didn't cause engine failure - that was 6 mo. prior to my car seeing a track).

You would use the measurement of cd*A (frontal area) to measure the REAL drag of a car. And if you use the cdA unit, you'll find the Elise is not really that much more inefficient than a C6 Corvette.


Is it not true that downforce and lift have the same effect on drag?