Interested in a kit for a non-SC'd Elise.
+1 just showing my interest in the upgradeWill there be a package for Exige S? Curious as to the cost and also installation.
CX- I don't think you're missing anything, that's just what she laid down... Both Darksol and I had similar figures with our 10psi pulleys on the same dyno- same day. AFRs were fine at the time- that was before we all discovered the longterm big no-no pulley swap issue... At anyrate, Dark's car always had about 5 ponies more than mine since he had better headers and TB, etc... Last we checked (dyno'd) his car, he still had about the same power with the 3.4 pulley as well... The second chart showing about 241hp was still with the 10psi pulley, but I pulled the stops out and made that power by tuning for the "CA" intake (read, KN filter on the end of a tube) and adding some timing on the lower half of the pull... Based on that observation, the stock intake is a bottleneck- it just has to be tuned for if changed. Not sure if the Cup intake will fix that with tuning or not (simply meaning, not sure if the Cup intake flows enough add'l air over stock)... Different discussion for a different thread though...good work phil, but why are you only getting 225/148 with a base katana at 10PSI and no cat ? Am i missing something obvious.
I don't think so... Well maybe. I know it's got the air for 400whp with an IC and built engine and still be within it's efficient window- But I'd be surprised if 450 or 500 is...Well, 500 hp from it? What's the realistic max before it becomes inefficient?
I'm remarking about your 'costly' statement, a reflash from me for these types of kits costs $600 base, thats it nothing else is needed, it'll be safer and have as much power as the standalone stuff, and it'll pass sniffer and OBD II, you need an efi standalone, a harness, and tuning, which is considerably more, yes you can retune to your hearts content and if thats your goal you ought to install a standalone, but it'll cost a lot more in the long run.
i charge $100 ph at the dyno, for the intial tuning, if its not right or needs tweaking, i don't charge addtional fees, even if it needs a few times , i don't charge for street tuning either, and other people get the benefit of any custom tuning since i can provide those updates, the last time i did that it was $25.
i think those going the way of a standalone are being true to the spirit of the hacker, and i wholly support that, but as with life you're taking a tiny percentile.
I just don't see where you get 'costly' from, thats all
Would love to come out, it's only 20 hours or so drive! How about you bring your car to KansasThanks for update Phil. Are you stopping at 300 whp because of chassis or something else?
Bring it out to CA so you can run on some tracks with me
You mean reliability of the engine? Should be. At 10psi, I know charge temps are fine and safe... I bet more safe temps than the M62 at 7 psi... I know Fred has like 370whp on his stock 2ZZ in his XP car, but he runs 112 race gas and auto crosses and the engine is still holding strong... I doubt our engines will last long at that power on the race track... But that's just speculation...As long as charge temperatures remain reasonable, should reliability be a problem?
No, Charlie is Santa Claus.In other words...
Charlie is God...
Don't forget - I did it in 17...without any boost.Would love to come out, it's only 20 hours or so drive! How about you bring your car to Kansas
Will there be a package for Exige S? Curious as to the cost and also installation.
I am interested in Exige S drop-in also.I will purchase, once there is an Exige S solution. Great job!!!
Hehehe, we need to fix that boost problem! How about on SundayDon't forget - I did it in 17...without any boost.
Would you like directions?I'd drive to Kansas for this...
What brings you to that conclusion?....The last thing I want to do is to raise the boost...
Thanks for the kind words Smoky:up: Stock 2ZZ has excellent head bolts and gakets- no problems there. Lower end and pistons should be fine. That said, the pistons are known to be the weak link in this engine...This is excellent Phil. So glad to hear good news amidst all the BS going on in the world/market/etc....
...How does the stock 2ZZ hold up to the boost? Are gaskets, studs, or any other fortification items recommended? ....
...I'm not looking to do any bottom-end or piston work...
...Thanks Phil! This is going to be very, very good.
Stock- Although I've got a slick litte trick that I'll post about later to give your fuel system a nice bump in output...Phil, are you still running a stock fuel pump, or did you upgrade already?
Thanks Eric!Wow this is great!
Any chance of figuring out a kit with Exige manifolds for the Elise?