the ODB scan tools work fine on a CAN equipped car.tbsmith said:Thanks, Tim. Do you know if the OBD scan tools like yours will be obsolete with CAN equipped vehicles, or will they still work (without the extra features)?
Sorry i meant the Autoxray 5000, yes its CAN compatable. but any cheapo ODB-II scanner will work on the car. Kragen has one for $99 and it will work fine to read the codes, it just doesn't give you live data from the enginee.tbsmith said:Vince, Did you mean the Autoxray 5000? I can't find the model 500. I went to their website and model 5000 is specifically compatible with CAN. So that still leaves the question whether an OBD-II scanner (or software) will work with the Elise.
Yep.TimMullen said:I would expect that the Elise will work with the any standard ODB-II scanner that supports the proper protocol
In fact, the Elise may not send basic OBD diagnostics over CANBus at all. They have no specific requirement on the CANBus and can use it for whatever data they like, so long as the OBD requirements are met on the K-Line (ISO OBD-II).
The fact that the CAN-Bus is also available from the same plug just adds additional capabilities, but for basic emission control and diagnostics, the Elise has to support ODB-II.
16, if you're picky.
The actual ODB-II connector under the dash is a 15 pin connector
OBD-II, ISO Style, is required to be on pins 4/ground, 5/ground, 7/K, 16/pwr -- Pin 15 (L) is optional.
I'm not sure that the pin-outs for all the additional connections are standardized, but they have to be for the ODB-II standard (and most likely the CAN-Bus).
The OBD-II parameters are a 'basic' set of test results, freezeframe data (for failures), and real-time parameters you can read. They're really just the lowest-common-denominator stuff that is required of a car.ChrisH said:If I got and OBD-II scanner, could I do the full ECU dump like the dealer will do at the 1000 mile checkup? If OBD-II won't do it, how can we? CAN bus? Something else?
For those who don't get the joke:It's a nice interface, with a clear plexiglass top so you can "relaxen und watchen das blinken lights"
Thought I'd revive this old thread to see if anyone has done an ECU dump using one of the available OBD2 scan tools.So all we need is for someone to figure out (or leak) the Lotus secret codes and make them available to folks who have a CAN bus scanner. Any volunteers?