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Of all the brake pads I have tried over the years, these are not just good, but are great for street driving:
Akebono: Aftermarket Products and Services

We are talking zero, not low dust, and zero squeal. And since my 98 is an old, retired street fighter, it doesn't bother me if they are not the right pads for extreme braking. I can always switch pads if I need to do something agressive.

Here's the catch: They don't list the Esprit, but chances are they have the pads listed on other cars that use the same caliper.

I found in a forum search that the rear calipers are from a Renault Laguna but it doesn't list which year/model/spec. The Akebono web site does list a pad for the station wagon version of the Laguna that looks really similar:


I have no leads on the front yet.

Does anyone know of a way to get a list of cars that use the same front and rear calipers as the Brembo V8 to really confirm the right pads for this brake pad manufacturer and others (for other people's benefit)?

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Elise and Viper have the same rear calipers, though pad thicknesses vary.
[ame]http://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-DP3885C-Redstuff-Ceramic/dp/B000CGVPPQ[/ame]


Compatibility chart here for the front Brembo pads
[ame]http://www.amazon.com/EBC-Brakes-DP31140C-Redstuff-Ceramic/dp/B000CGVPLA/[/ame]

Click the link that says "See all vehicles this product fits"
 

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Thanks! No luck with those on their online catalog. Any other cars that anyone knows about?
 

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you had no luck with
Aston Martin DB7 2003, 2004 GT 6.0L V12 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Aston Martin DB7 2003 GTA 6.0L V12 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Aston Martin DB7 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST
Aston Martin DB7 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 Vantage Volante 6.0L V12 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Aston Martin DB7 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 Vantage 6.0L V12 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Cadillac STS 2008, 2009 3.6L V6 LLT Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST - V
Cadillac STS 2009 3.6L V6 LLT Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF CERAMIC LOW DUST - V
Cadillac STS 2006, 2007 3.6L V6 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST - V
Cadillac STS 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 3.6L V6 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST - V
Cadillac STS 2009 3.6L V6 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF CERAMIC LOW DUST - V
Cadillac STS 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 4.4L V8 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST - V
Cadillac STS 2009 4.4L V8 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF CERAMIC LOW DUST - V
Cadillac STS 2006, 2007, 2008 4.6L V8 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST - V~REDSTUFF LOW DUST - HEAVY DUTY BRK - w/o PERFORMANCE PACKAGE
Cadillac STS 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 4.6L V8 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST SUPERSTREET~HD BRK - w/o PERF PKG~V
Cadillac STS 2009 4.6L V8 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST - V~REDSTUFF LOW DUST - HEAVY DUTY BRK
Cadillac STS 2010 4.6L V8 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST - HEAVY DUTY BRK
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With Heavy Duty Brakes~Without Performance Package
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With Heavy Duty Brakes~Without Performance Package
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With Heavy Duty Brakes
Cadillac STS 2009 Base 4.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI A Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Cadillac STS 2009, 2010 Base 4.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI A Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Heavy Duty Brakes
Cadillac STS 2006, 2007, 2008 Base 4.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
With Heavy Duty Brakes
Cadillac STS 2009 Base 4.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
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With Heavy Duty Brakes~Without Performance Package
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With Heavy Duty Brakes
Cadillac STS 2009 Platinum 4.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI A Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Heavy Duty Brakes
Cadillac STS 2008 Platinum 4.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
With Heavy Duty Brakes
Cadillac STS 2009 Platinum 4.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Cadillac STS 2006, 2007, 2008 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF CERAMIC LOW DUST - V
Cadillac STS 2009 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
Not Mfr Data - Derived from OE - Match to Original~EBC REDSTUFF FAST STREET~V~OE: 89047744, 89047757, 89060217
Cadillac STS 2006, 2007, 2008 V 4.4L V8 GAS Supercharged FI D Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Cadillac STS 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 V 4.4L V8 GAS Supercharged FI D Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Cadillac STS 2006, 2007 V 4.4L V8 GAS Supercharged FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Cadillac STS 2006, 2007, 2008 V 4.4L V8 GAS Supercharged FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Ferrari 360 2002, 2003 Challenge 3.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Front EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Ferrari 360 2005 Challenge 3.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Front EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Ferrari 360 2002, 2003 Challenge 3.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Ferrari 360 2005 Challenge 3.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Ferrari 360 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 Front Front Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST
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Ferrari 360 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST
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Ferrari F430 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Base 4.3L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Ferrari F430 2006, 2007 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF CERAMIC LOW DUST
Ferrari F430 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST
Ferrari F430 2008, 2009 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF CERAMIC LOW DUST - BASE MODEL - SPIDER
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With Brembo Front Caliper
Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2010, 2011 2.0T Premium 2.0L L4 GAS Turbocharged FI D Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
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With Brembo Front Caliper
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With Brembo Front Caliper
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With Brembo Front Caliper
Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2010 2.0T 2.0L L4 GAS Turbocharged FI D Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2010, 2011 2.0T 2.0L L4 GAS Turbocharged FI D Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
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With Brembo Front Caliper
Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2010, 2011 3.8 Grand Touring 3.8L V6 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI H Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2011 3.8 R-Spec 3.8L V6 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI H Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2010 3.8 Track 3.8L V6 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI H Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2010, 2011 3.8 Track 3.8L V6 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI H Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2010 3.8 3.8L V6 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI H Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2010, 2011 3.8 3.8L V6 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI H Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
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REDSTUFF LOW DUST
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With Brembo Front Caliper
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With Brembo Front Caliper
Jaguar XJR 2000, 2001, 2002 Base 4.0L V8 GAS Supercharged FI B Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
Jaguar XJR 1998, 1999 Base 4.0L V8 GAS Supercharged FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
Jaguar XJR 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 Base 4.2L V8 GAS Supercharged FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
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EBC REDSTUFF LOW DUST SUPERSTREET - w/BREMBO FR CALP
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REDSTUFF FAST STREET
Jaguar XJR 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST
Jaguar XJR 2009 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
Not Mfr Data - Derived from OE - Match to Original~REDSTUFF LOW DUST~OE: C2C27271
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Jaguar XK8 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 Base 4.2L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Jaguar XK8 2005, 2006 Base 4.2L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Jaguar XK8 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF FAST STREET
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Jaguar XKR 2002 100 4.0L V8 GAS Supercharged FI B Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Rear Caliper
Jaguar XKR 2000, 2001, 2002 Base 4.0L V8 GAS Supercharged FI B Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Rear Caliper
Jaguar XKR 2003, 2004 Base 4.2L V8 GAS Supercharged FI B Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Jaguar XKR 2003, 2004 Base 4.2L V8 GAS Supercharged FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Jaguar XKR 2005 Base 4.2L V8 GAS Supercharged FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Jaguar XKR 2006 Base 4.2L V8 GAS Supercharged FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
Jaguar XKR 2000, 2001, 2002 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST - w/BREMBO REAR CALIPER
Jaguar XKR 2003, 2004, 2005 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST
Jaguar XKR 2006 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST - BREMBO FRONT CALIPER
Jaguar XKR 2006 Victory Edition 4.2L V8 GAS Supercharged FI Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
With Brembo Front Caliper
Lotus Esprit 1994, 1995 Front Front Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST
Lotus Esprit 1997, 1998 Front Front Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF CERAMIC LOW DUST
Lotus Esprit 1994, 1995 S4 2.2L L4 GAS Turbocharged FI 0 Front EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Lotus Esprit 1995 S4s 2.2L L4 GAS Turbocharged FI 0 Front EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Lotus Esprit 1995 S4s 2.2L L4 GAS Turbocharged FI Front EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Lotus Esprit 1997 V8 3.5L V8 GAS Turbocharged FI 3 Front EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
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Lotus Esprit 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 V8 3.5L V8 GAS Turbocharged FI Front EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Lotus Esprit 1999 V8 3.5L V8 GAS Turbocharged FI Front EBC Redstuff Low Dust Superstreet; Disc Pads;
Lotus Esprit 1999, 2000 V8 3.5L V8 GAS Turbocharged FI Front EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Lotus Esprit 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 V8 3.5L V8 GAS Turbocharged FI Front EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Qvale Mangusta 2001, 2002 Base 4.6L V8 GAS Naturally Aspirated FI Front EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
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EBC REDSTUFF FAST STREET~T5
Volvo S60 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 R 2.5L L5 GAS Turbocharged FI B5254T4 Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Volvo S60 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 R 2.5L L5 GAS Turbocharged FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Volvo S60 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF FAST STREET~R
Volvo S60 2006, 2007 T5 2.4L L5 GAS Turbocharged FI B5244T5 EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Volvo S60 2006, 2007, 2008 T5 2.4L L5 GAS Turbocharged FI EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Volvo V70 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 R 2.5L L5 GAS Turbocharged FI B5254T4 Rear EBC Redstuff Ceramic Low Dust Brake Pads;
Volvo V70 2004, 2005, 2006 R 2.5L L5 GAS Turbocharged FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Volvo V70 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 R 2.5L L5 GAS Turbocharged FI Rear EBC Redstuff Fast Street; Disc Pads;
Volvo V70 2004 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
REDSTUFF LOW DUST - R
Volvo V70 2005, 2006 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
4WD
REDSTUFF FAST STREET
Volvo V70 2005, 2006, 2007 Rear Rear Ceramic Pads
4WD
REDSTUFF LOW DUST
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Discussion Starter #5
Thanks!

It's a little weird looking them up because some of the pics on the Akebono catalog don't look anything like the Esprit pads.

But this one does look like a match for the front pads (from a 2006 Volvo S60 rear pad):


And it's a lot cheaper than the EBC Reds.

I'm still confused about the rears.
 

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I just picked the ebc reds since they had a full compatibility chart.

I have some custom Porterfield R4s now and they are quiet and low dust, but just now in the rain i had zero braking friction until I used them a bunch of times to warm up the pads!

I like the Ferodo DS2500 pads for some track and street.
 

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Anyone have a picture of what the rear pads look like on the V8?
 

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Discussion Starter #8 (Edited)
I spoke to Akebono's product guy this morning and he confirmed that these are for the fronts:


So I ordered those.

He also confirmed that while he found the pad needed for the rear, they don't have anything that fits, so I will go with the EBC Reds. On a side note said there has to be 50,000 cars on the road in the US with that same caliper before they make a pad. That rear caliper is just not on mainstream cars.
 

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Just an update that I have had the Akebono's on the front for about two weeks now. I put EBC Reds on the rear at the same time.

The Akebono's are amazing. The brakes feel just as good as the stock semi-metallic pads to me. The squeak is gone from the front. And with the Nova wheels it's great to have zero dust build up no matter how much you drive them on at least the front wheels.

The EBC Reds are a lot less dusty that stock, but after a while, you still have to wipe them down. The dust is easier to clean that the metallic stuff though.

Really wish the Akebono's were made for the rear, but it's not going to happen.
 

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Yes and no -- the rear calipers are the same on the S4s, V8, and most Eliges, but the pad thickness varies depending on the model/year. 2000-on V8's with AP front calipers used a thinner pad than the cars equipped with Brembos. The front Brembos are the same on all cars so equipped.

The industry pad pattern number for the rears is 491, and was also used on Dodge Vipers and Monacos.

I have a brand new set of OEM Lotus Brembo rear pads for the S4s and pre-2000 V8 for sale, PM me if interested.
 
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