Other exhaust offerings???????

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Mean TT

Discussion Starter · Jul 21, 2004

Once again, I feel as though I am talking to a brick wall, but here goes nothing. Now that the customer cars have begun to arrive, and also considering that the option to change the exhaust already exists, where or where are the pics, and the dyno plots, and the options regarding other companies who have "been developing" new systems for the car???? It has been a great source of personal frustration having the car delayed repeatedly, however, these delays should allow for more companies to offer different exhaust systems. To date, NO; I repeat NO information has been given about the potential of aftermarket systems. Personally, I will be purchasing some sort of system, and as I have always stated, I owuld prefer to use the aftermarket system instead of the Lotus system because I feel that more effort would be invested in an aftermarkey system.

It is my effort to start a petition to show the companies involved in developing new products for our special car that the time for talk has ended....it is time to show us the goods. After all, there are a very high number of cars at the port, and the buzz about the car is also very high. Now is the best time to offer new products. I hope that there are others on the Elise talk community who feel the same way, and hopefully we can establish if these other performance options really exist, or if they are only a rumor.:no:

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Robert Puertas

· #2 · Jul 21, 2004

Chris has had his for a whole week! Why hasn't he developed one yet?!?!?!

I can't speak for everyone else's excuses, but I haven't had a real fed car in my hands yet. This is where ordering an LSS car has bit some of us in the butt.

Frankly I'd be surprised if you see any locally developed products before the end of the year. Anybody with a tubing bender and a welder can throw together a "performance exhaust system" but I certainly have no intention of offering a product that hasn't been tested and dyno tuned. If you just want it to be louder or big and shiny, I'm sure your local muffler shop can help you. If you want real-world performance gains, then you'll have to wait until the right people have real Fed cars in their hands. And then, it's going to take a bit of time and work to develop the best solution.
I expect a good aftermarket system to be lighter, sound better and provide measurable performance gains without sacrificing durability.

Obviously the tuners in other parts of the world have a little advantage in that they've had access to the 111R for a few months. My only concern is that there might be a few subtle differences in the Fed cars vs. the 111R's built for the rest of the world.

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TimMullen

· #3 · Jul 21, 2004

Mean TT said:
prefer to use the aftermarket system instead of the Lotus system because I feel that more effort would be invested in an aftermarkey system.

I'm not sure why you (and others) have this perception. Lotus is an engineering company - one that other companies use to help design their engines and suspensions. Lotus has extensive testing and fabrication facilities - facilities and expertise used by many in the industry to get the optimum performance out of engines and chassis. To assume that someone with a pipe bender and a dyno will be able to necessarily create better performance parts than Lotus, just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Tim Mullen

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shinoo

· #4 · Jul 21, 2004

Both our intake and our exhaust will be dyno tested in August. Could there be additional delays? Maybe. We'll have some goods with data to support them by 4Q04.

Rushing improperly developed product to the market serves none of us. Hang tight, your patience will be rewarded!

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_JD_

· #5 · Jul 21, 2004

shinoo said:
Both our intake and our exhaust will be dyno tested in August. Could there be additional delays? Maybe. We'll have some goods with data to support them by 4Q04.

Rushing improperly developed product to the market serves none of us. Hang tight, your patience will be rewarded!

Hey Shinoo,
Do I have this right- if you install an aftermarket exhaust, it cannot void the warranty unless Lotus can prove that the exhaust caused the problem that you're getting fixed right? I'm trying to think of how an exhaust could affect the rest of the powertrain in a negative way and I'm coming up blank.

Jim

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shinoo

· #6 · Jul 21, 2004

Here's a statement from SEMA (Specialty Equipment Manufacturers Assoc) on warranty issues:

With regard to aftermarket parts, the spirit of the law is that warranty coverage cannot be denied simply because such parts are present on the vehicle, or have been used (see Attachment A). The warranty coverage can be denied only if the aftermarket part caused the malfunction or damage for which warranty coverage is sought.

Read more at the SEMA Website

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