[LotusB]

incorrect. ALL C7 ( 2014-2019) corvettes had carbon fiber bodies.

Correct, some panels, not all. Hood and roof only

Huge difference between 'carbon fiber bodies' and 'some panels.'

Corvettes aren't CF, if they were they WOULD be competing with supercars.

 

[Catsailr27]

Correct, some panels, not all. Hood and roof only

The used SMC for the majority of the body. It's akin to how the Elise clams are made from what I'm reading.

 

[VL3X]

I am going to say that many "never owned a Lotus" buyers like me are enticed by the announced price point of $80kUSD.

My opinion, if the pricing moves up closer to Evora, the value dissolves and people like me are walking away.

I'm right there with you. $90k+ for a first year Lotus coming from a new production factory with minimal US dealer support and not the strongest history of build quality (Toyota engine and trans aside)... yeah, I'm not willing to drop nearly $100k on that risk. The Emira is a beautiful car, but I will wait it out for a couple years, watch reviews, and let the bugs get worked out. For $80k? Sure.. I'll give it a shot. Otherwise I'm getting a 981 GT4 to play with for a couple years.

 

[Noregrts]

To me it would be wise for Lotus to announce pricing and details asap as there will inevitably be some who will drop out. It would give them a better idea of where they really need to be production-wise.

If a large percentage drops off the reservation list after details are announced, it would them give some insight as to hype vs reality.

I'm hanging in there as long as I can...but I'm not 100% committed until I know more. $80k start for 1st Edition seems worth it in some ways especially if they throw in extra stuff. But if later models have more hp, more colors, more choices maybe 1st Ed doesn't make sense.
At $90k start... It's just gonna depend on how the Pcar market is at that point in time.

 

[Noregrts]

I'm right there with you. $90k+ for a first year Lotus coming from a new production factory with minimal US dealer support and not the strongest history of build quality (Toyota engine and trans aside)... yeah, I'm not willing to drop nearly $100k on that risk. The Emira is a beautiful car, but I will wait it out for a couple years, watch reviews, and let the bugs get worked out. For $80k? Sure.. I'll give it a shot. Otherwise I'm getting a 981 GT4 to play with for a couple years.

Same exact wavelength as you!

 

[LotusB]

To me it would be wise for Lotus to announce pricing and details asap as there will inevitably be some who will drop out. It would give them a better idea of where they really need to be production-wise.

If a large percentage drops off the reservation list after details are announced, it would them give some insight as to hype vs reality.

I'm hanging in there as long as I can...but I'm not 100% committed until I know more. $80k start for 1st Edition seems worth it in some ways especially if they throw in extra stuff. But if later models have more hp, more colors, more choices maybe 1st Ed doesn't make sense.
At $90k start... It's just gonna depend on how the Pcar market is at that point in time.

They've already said it'll be September, be patient. Also, price doesn't tell the whole story. There will be a tour in November when we'll actually get to sit in the cars, see materials, paints, etc. in person. After which point in (I believe) December is when you have to make a decision. That's when we'll really know who's serious and who isn't.

I'm not as price sensitive as others, but I'm very much quality/performance/exclusivity sensitive. So if they come out with the car and it's cheap, but it also doesn't perform at least as well as the outgoing Evora GT or the quality is unimpressie, I'll be:

 

[Catsailr27]

For those of you that haven't seen this it might provide a little insight into the strange world of Lotus.

 

[kratedisease]

Is the tour confirmed for the USA ?

Any details ? Which locations ?

Anything, anything ? Bueller ? Bueller ?

 

[Noregrts]

They've already said it'll be September, be patient. Also, price doesn't tell the whole story. There will be a tour in November when we'll actually get to sit in the cars, see materials, paints, etc. in person. After which point in (I believe) December is when you have to make a decision. That's when we'll really know who's serious and who isn't.

I'm not as price sensitive as others, but I'm very much quality/performance/exclusivity sensitive. So if they come out with the car and it's cheap, but it also doesn't perform at least as well as the outgoing Evora GT or the quality is unimpressie, I'll be:

I'm obviously new to Lotus. But some of the old timers on LT have been here before. Many are saying "expect delays."
Lotus has already released pricing in a way. They have already released power specs... So at this point, I don't understand why Sept is the magical month?
Will any of this information change in the matter of a few weeks? Admittedly, I don't know how it works and I'm sure I'm way over simplifying it.
As to the tour, given the lack of dealerships, many won't have the opportunity to see an Emira in person before ordering. Luckily I do have one of the largest dealers in my state (Bellevue), but if the car is there at a time I can't get up there to see it, then I'll be relying on everyone else's opinion to make my decision.
**disclaimer: patience is not one of my virtues 🤣

 

[kratedisease]

I have money in my pocket, I am Extremely Horney, and I want carsex !!

I can’t wait any longer !!

EMIRA is hot and I want carsex already. I can’t wait

My left clutch leg is about to explode from deadly (seamen) buildup.

 

[Noregrts]

[QUOTE="Noregrts, post: 6111918, member: 142798
Lotus has already released pricing in a way. They have already released power specs... So at this point, I don't understand why Sept is the magical month?
Will any of this information change in the matter of a few weeks?
**disclaimer: patience is not one of my virtues 🤣

I have money in my pocket, I am Extremely Horney, and I want carsex !!

I can’t wait any longer !!

EMIRA is hot and I want carsex already. I can’t wait

My left clutch leg is about to explode from deadly (seamen) buildup.
[/QUOTE]

I guess if I was a guy I could relate?

Unless you were really referring to something nautical?

 

[rustyb]

Based on dealer info, after inquiring about putting a deposit, he estimated V6 with 6 speed, no dealer markup, 100 grand.

 

[Eagle7]

Well unfortunately, car dealers are notorious for either not knowing what they're talking about and/or wildly exaggerating. I'll wait for the manufacturer to say what the actual MSRP will be.

 

[4380r]

Based on dealer info, after inquiring about putting a deposit, he estimated V6 with 6 speed, no dealer markup, 100 grand.

That sounds like he's snuck in a disguised dealer markup.

 

[kratedisease]

This is worse than studying for final exam, and not knowing what is going to be on the test........

( possibly better analogy than the carsex?)

 

[VL3X]

For those of you that haven't seen this it might provide a little insight into the strange world of Lotus.

Well.. that was.. discouraging. Long service times, shrinking leather, fires, ants!

 

[Johnnymac]

They've already said it'll be September, be patient. Also, price doesn't tell the whole story. There will be a tour in November when we'll actually get to sit in the cars, see materials, paints, etc. in person. After which point in (I believe) December is when you have to make a decision. That's when we'll really know who's serious and who isn't.

I'm not as price sensitive as others, but I'm very much quality/performance/exclusivity sensitive. So if they come out with the car and it's cheap, but it also doesn't perform at least as well as the outgoing Evora GT or the quality is unimpressie, I'll be:

Can you explain why exclusivity is so important to you? I struggle with this aspect. Would it really be a deal breaker if Lotus sells a huge number of these and they are more common than the previous version? Personally I don't care about that at all, in fact if it's as good as they claim, I would love it if everyone could afford and drive one. Won't change how I feel about it or how the car makes me feel.

 

[agentdr8]

Can you explain why exclusivity is so important to you? I struggle with this aspect. Would it really be a deal breaker if Lotus sells a huge number of these and they are more common than the previous version? Personally I don't care about that at all, in fact if it's as good as they claim, I would love it if everyone could afford and drive one. Won't change how I feel about it or how the car makes me feel.

I don't think anyone on this forum thinks having a Lotus is as exclusive as say some multi-million dollar hypercar, but seeing another Lotus on the road (regardless of model) is a rather momentous occasion since it's not something you see every day. Imagine if the Emira was as ubiquitous as the Caymans or 911s, which blend into the background, and even though they're great cars in their own way/right, nobody bats an eye when one (or half a dozen) go by.

 

[Johnnymac]

I don't think anyone on this forum thinks having a Lotus is as exclusive as say some multi-million dollar hypercar, but seeing another Lotus on the road (regardless of model) is a rather momentous occasion since it's not something you see every day. Imagine if the Emira was as ubiquitous as the Caymans or 911s, which blend into the background, and even though they're great cars in their own way/right, nobody bats an eye when one (or half a dozen) go by.

If I buy a Lotus, and I see a fellow Lotus drive by (minus the upcoming SUV) I will automatically know that we have something major in common, and that is the love of the drive. That's a community I love being a part of, adding more people to that community is only a good thing in my mind. I'm not wealthy, and I don't spend money on things to show off, heck my most expensive watch is $300 and I wear clothes I bought from Costco and even Walmart. But I can justify spending close to 6 figures on a sports car, and I do that not to show off, but because I love vehicles that drive special and make me feel special. I don't get that from the envy of others.

 

[agentdr8]

I do that not to show off, but because I love vehicles that drive special and make me feel special. I don't get that from the envy of others.

For me, and maybe others, exclusivity isn't about showing off, or feeling special because of others envy, but because the particular choice made in which car to drive/own is one that most wouldn't make given the same circumstances. Like you said, other Lotus that you see are likely because those people made the same decisions, based on roughly the same criteria. They recognize the "specialness" of driving and owning a Lotus (faults included), whereas the majority of others don't.

I also like being able to pick my car out of a parking lot easily. 🤷‍♂️