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A previous thread on the forum argued the best radar detectors. A divided concensus between the valantine and escort 8500 existed. Now some newer detectors can pick up POP radar which is apperently being used more. (POP is described as a micro second burst not picked up by most detectors including the valantine and 8500).
As of this month an ungraded escort 8500 model, the X50, is now available. A few other new models, like the bel 995, also have the tech to pick up POP radar.
I was just ablout to by the Valantine (I thought the directional arrows were a nice feature) but now am leaning toward the 8500 X50, which also has a cool optional blue display.
 

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my plan is to go full boat and order the passport SRX, which hopefully in a few months will have POP support
 

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How prevelant is this new POP tech? Any information links? The Valentine has saved me many times, including several where the cop comes up from behind. Except for this POP issue, the V1 has been the best for me.
 

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The directional indication from the V1 has and does save my a$$. There is no substitute. If this POP does become prevalent I am sure Mr. Valentine will upgrade the V1. As they have done before, you can return the unit you own and have the unit upgraded. I owned a passport once, I think it got thrown in the trash years ago when I bought my first V1. I now have one for my wife too.
I have no affiliation with Valentine just a contented consumer.
 

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Maybe it explains this?

Radar stops car doing Mach 3


7 April 2004

BRUSSELS - A police radar in Brussels recently stopped a car travelling at three times the speed of sound, newspaper La Derniere Heure reported on Wednesday.

The incident happened in December but has only just come to light, the newspaper said.

Apparently the car, a standard mini, was 'flashed' by the radar when it drove too quickly along the Boulevard Lambermont in the Brussels suburb of Schaerbeek.

However, when police retrieved the necessary data from the radar in order to fine the errant motorist, they were more than a little surprised.

According to the device, the car had been travelling at 3,381 kilometres per hour, or over three times the speed of sound.

"We called the local police to find out what height the plane caught speeding along the Boulevard Lambermont was flying at," joked a member of the Brussels public prosecutor's office cited in the Derniere Heure report.

After the incident the police rather sheepishly said they would make sure the over enthusiastic radar was repaired.

The supersonic motorist was apparently let off with a warning.

[Copyright Expatica News 2004]

Subject: Belgian news

http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=24&story_id=6438

:p

Thanks for the V1 link, good info.
 

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I'll cast another vote for Valentine.

On a yearly basis I make the trip from LA to Monterey for the Historic Races, and the pace is 'enthusiastic.' A couple years back, I drove up 'convoy' style with some pals -- I had the Valentine in my car, and they had the passport in theirs. 101 is chock full of patrol cars that weekend, and Valentine warned me of radar traps hundreds of yards before the passport. Neither of us were ticketed, but the passport cut it pretty close.

Anecdotal evidence, but it convinced me.
 

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I also have a V1.


Anyone thought of where to mount it? Any chances it will be able to "see" out the back window?
 

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Assuming you guys have heard of K40?

This is another option, admittedly quite costly, that solves the rear visibility problem by using remote sensors at plate/bumper level wired through to concealed switches and indicators in the dash. I've been using one for the past few years with great success.
 

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Re: Assuming you guys have heard of K40?

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This is another option, admittedly quite costly, that solves the rear visibility problem by using remote sensors at plate/bumper level wired through to concealed switches and indicators in the dash. I've been using one for the past few years with great success.
everything I've seen/heard/read says that the K40 is crap compared to the Passport SRX.
 

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I mount my Passport via suction cups on the vertical rear (inside) window of the NSX. That way it has a straight "view" front and rear. I'd think you could also do so on the Elise. One problem, though is you can't see the unit's readout- you must rely on the audible warning (which I do anyway). Does anyone know if the V-1 has a "remote" readout that can be mounted, say, on top of the dash?

Disclaimer: Of course, I would NEVER use a radar detector within the confines of the state of VA. They are illegal here. ;)
 

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I mount my Passport via suction cups on the vertical rear (inside) window of the NSX. That way it has a straight "view" front and rear. I'd think you could also do so on the Elise. One problem, though is you can't see the unit's readout- you must rely on the audible warning (which I do anyway). Does anyone know if the V-1 has a "remote" readout that can be mounted, say, on top of the dash?

Disclaimer: Of course, I would NEVER use a radar detector within the confines of the state of VA. They are illegal here. ;)
You could see the face in your rearview mirror right?:)
 

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DCNSX said:
I mount my Passport via suction cups on the vertical rear (inside) window of the NSX. That way it has a straight "view" front and rear. I'd think you could also do so on the Elise. One problem, though is you can't see the unit's readout- you must rely on the audible warning (which I do anyway). Does anyone know if the V-1 has a "remote" readout that can be mounted, say, on top of the dash?
The V1 does have an optional wired remote display. I use it.

I would like to see some pics if possible of your mount.
 

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JD- the face is mounted too low to see it in the rearview mirror. I guess I have to choose my priorities in that regard: Would I rather see the flashing red lights of the detector or the flashing blue lights of the cop pulling me over? ;) Actually, the Passport also has a "remote" warning light on the cigarette plug,
which works okay on the NSX but is invisible (behind the gearshift lever) on the Rx-7.

Randy- I'll try to post a pic soon. It is mounted "reverse" (suction mount is designed for the windshield). So I guess technically I COULD see the display in the rearview mirror, JD.
 

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Re: Re: Assuming you guys have heard of K40?

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everything I've seen/heard/read says that the K40 is crap compared to the Passport SRX.
Any references?
 

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stealth

I don't know if this still applies, but I recall an article in C&D or R&T several years ago that claimed a Lotus Elan was almost invisible. Dark colors are difficult for laser to reflect back to unit, sloping/non-vertical surfaces tend to reflect laser and radar away from gun, covered headlights are good (headlights were an old favorite target, along with license plates for laser) and of course, the smaller the car, the closer it has to be for the radar to pick it up.
I'm going to wet sand the paint on my Nightfall Blue Elise's front and bend the license plate wa-a-a-ay back under the car. I figure the 'man' won't see anything on his unit until I can see the whites of his eyes!
Also wondering if aluminum chassis is contributes to a smaller radar 'signature'?
 

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Re: stealth

Less Moore said:
Also wondering if aluminum chassis is contributes to a smaller radar 'signature'?
Actually, the Elise will probably be a great radar target...:(

The radar can pass right through the fiberglass body, but will reflect back off the flat, "slab sided" front bulkhead. The angled radiator may help reflect the radar away from the source however.

Now, if we could all get together on a bulk order of military grade radar absorbing material/paint for the inside of the front clamshell....:D :D

Tim Mullen
 

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Hmm... a while ago (like quite a few years) I was contracted to work on this defense stuff. This company created this coated material by sputtering atoms onto mylar. They could coat a very fine thickness. Then using their parameters, I would create a gridwork of lines and have my drafting plotter take this mylar material and scribe through the sputtered material using a special blade/point.

The end result was a very thin plastic material that only allowed certain types of radio waves/frequencies to pass through and not others. This was installed onto certain military aircraft.
 
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