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When you guys say that you've been quoted msrp, do you mean the current $39,985 or "msrp on time of delivery". Sorry if this has been posted somewhere, but I've looked around and seen conflicting statements and nothing really confirmed. The reason I was asking is that I assumed that msrp would be $39,985, but I called 6 different dealers within an hour & a half of me and got a different story. They all said that I would get msrp in writing, but it would be msrp at the time of delivery. Someone mentioned that this could be quite a bit higher due to the dollar, but not due to demand since the factory sets msrp and dealers would be the ones jacking up the price because of demand.

Just so you know, I talked to Rothrock, Sports & Specialists, Maplecrest, Manhattan Motorcars, Classic Automobiles and HRM. All of them said I could get msrp at the time in writing, and all said I would need a $1000 deposit except for maplecrest which required $2000 (which is strange because I could swear they said $1000 a month ago). Rothrock told me their allocation was 40 cars a year (surprising they would tell me with it being that low), HRM said 100 cars a year and the other 4 told me that no dealers know their allocation yet. Seems odd, but after reading all the allocation threads they probably just don't want to say.

Anyway, I'm putting a deposit down tomorrow or early next week. The reason I've waited this long is because I wanted to wait until I had paid off some college loans and could put about half down, and that won't be till this time next year. I also wanted the car to enjoy summer '05. I figure now is when I should put the deposit down.

At the moment I'm leaning towards HRM, because they said their allocation was 100 and I would be 89 on the list, meaning I would get my car within a year, probably next march. All of the others said a year or more, so I'm thinking if things get backed up I won't have it for next summer. I have also heard good things about HRM, and some bad things about others (not all 5 tho). Any recommendations?

Sorry if this post is long and contains more than one topic, but I'm in a rush to get home. :)
 

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originally posted by Derek
Once your order is in and your deposit in non-refundable the price should be locked in.
I agree with Derek. Once everything is finalized you should be alright, unless you are with a shady dealer. ;)
 

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If being promised MSRP meant the price at the time of placing the deposit, they would write the contract for $39,985. The dealer doesn't want to stick his A** on the line for what the dollar does vs. the pound over the next year if you are # 83 in line. He's just promising you that he won't charge a premium over the then current MSRP when you get the car. That doesn't sound like a "shady dealer" to me. It gives some protection to both sides.
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I agree. It is a concern of mine for people that are far down on the waiting list. You only have a guarantee for MSRP. If MSRP goes up, your price will also go up.

Lotus has been taking a position that the contract between the buyer and the dealer is totally out of their hands. So if Lotus announces an MSRP increase, does that not mean that they will charge all new orders from the dealer some higher amount?

None of us know when Lotus will (if they do) increase MSRP. It could be for 2005 cars only. I don't know.
 

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Derek said:
Once your order is in and your deposit in non-refundable the price should be locked in.
That's not what most of them said, mostly they said "msrp at the time of delivery" (unfortunately I forgot to ask a few of them). So I don't think that's the case. :(
 

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Here's how I understand it:

1. You place a deposit
2. You wait a year or more
3. Your dealer says it's time to order your car.
4. You provide specific order info: color/options/etc
5. Your deposit becomes non-refundable and MSRP is locked in
6. Your dealer submits the order to Lotus
7. Your car arrives and you don't give damn how much MSRP is...:D

I take no responsibility fo the accuracy of the above process. ;)
 
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