My friend has an '84 308qv and his timing belt job is easier than on my '87 HCi. The simple reason? Access! On the 308, once you remove the inner fender lining and get the AC pump out of the way its all right there. Not saying its a 2 hour job or anything but there is WAY more access than the Esprit.Yup, sorry, to be clear I was commenting from a 4 pot perspective. However, I have changed out the belts on a Ferrari 308 a number of time. Takes a bit more patients, but from what I can find to read it is a similar job. Ferrari wants a lot... a lot... to do this work.
I can usually get it done in the garage with a friend helping for about $4k less than Ferrari charges and in far less time.
But the V8 Esprit... sorry. No real help with that from direct experience.
On most exotic cars (read expensive) like Porshe or Ferrari the motor comes out for just about any job. Even on a Lotus, if you have to do more than 2 things it usually means the motor is coming out.My friend has an '84 308qv and his timing belt job is easier than on my '87 HCi. The simple reason? Access! On the 308, once you remove the inner fender lining and get the AC pump out of the way its all right there. Not saying its a 2 hour job or anything but there is WAY more access than the Esprit.
That being said, EVERY single part for his car is like 3x to 5x the cost of my cars parts so it does balance out.
Well - I dont see why, especially on the 308 since it really is right there once you get some stuff out of the way. I agree if theres more to do then yank the lump but for a standard major on most of these cars it can be done and has been done in situ.On most exotic cars (read expensive) like Porshe or Ferrari the motor comes out for just about any job. Even on a Lotus, if you have to do more than 2 things it usually means the motor is coming out.
David Teitelbaum
Some older 911's required engine out for tons of stuff, simple stuff...What exactly are you doing on a Porsche that needs engine out?!
Fair enough. My experience is just with 996/997.Some older 911's required engine out for tons of stuff, simple stuff...
Knew a guy many moons ago who had an early 930 turbo, dont recall the year though think it was a 1985? which he said required removing or dramatically lowering of it just to replace a couple spark plugs which couldnt be accessed otherwise. YIKES!Fair enough. My experience is just with 996/997.
Wow. That is supremely stupid.Knew a guy many moons ago who had an early 930 turbo, dont recall the year though think it was a 1985? which he said required removing or dramatically lowering of it just to replace a couple spark plugs which couldnt be accessed otherwise. YIKES!
Not so much. On a 308 ferrari for example the timing belts are done with the engine in the car, same for the clutch. On a 911 most things (other than a clutch) are done with the engine in the car. Valve jobs, for example, are often done with the engine in.On most exotic cars (read expensive) like Porshe or Ferrari the motor comes out for just about any job. Even on a Lotus, if you have to do more than 2 things it usually means the motor is coming out.
David Teitelbaum