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Ican not remember details, but there was a thread recently on this. Try searching the Elise forum. It discussed some of the various units and which type to buy for some different states due to each area using different frequencies.
 

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ALL 6792 threads on this subject point to the V1.
 

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If money was no object and I am working on it, I would buy the Escort Passport 9500ci. Besides superior performance, I want to be able to mount it in a concealed manner. I just don't like cords and boxes floating around on my dash.
The Valentine is certainly one of the top 3.
 

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what i thought was cool about the V1 is that you just power it off the obd port. Along with auto speed sensing alert volumes - speed supplied via the obd port, etc.
 

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The 9500 series has had the variable speed alerts for a while. I think the V1 has an annoying sound but is still a good detector.
 

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Varies from where you live, personally speaking.

If you are in a more rural area then I would encourage the V1. If you are in more of a city/urban area, there is nothing better than the 9500ix.

If I lived on the Seattle side of washington state, it would be the 9500ix by escort for sure. Washington state put in, fake radar guns on light posts that are solar powered to go off randomly throughout your I-5 commute. I found that out, when I was driving with the V1 and it started to go off. I slowed, saw no police officer, and the signal stopped. I just cruised at this slower speed, and then the V1 went off a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th time, until I noticed the guns mounted high up on a telephone post with a solar panel on above it.

So when I go to the west side, the V1 helps, but is not as much of a comfort as my friend's 9500ix which based on GPS, he has already blocked those "Extra" signals out.

Summary:

Rural: Valentine V1
Urban: Escort 9500ix
 

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My 9500ix was noisy at first, but after a few weeks it learned were everything is and now if it goes off, there is a cop sitting somewhere and I can spot them.

Just a great unit !!!
 

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I have a 9500ix and it is awesome. While I was looking to purchase a radar a few years ago, I was broken between the valentine and 9500ix. I researched both for quite some time and eventually went with the 9500ix. It's ability to accurately detect real threats at a distance while eliminating all the false alerts around town is what sold me. To this day I am still very satisfied with my decision. I hard wired mine to the fuse box so that it turns on with the ignition and has hidden wires.
 

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not my thread, but i want a v1, but no cash. So to that end...anyone want exige scoops w/grills? haha check parts for sale tomorrow.
 

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i have a v1 in the bmw... its fine... nothing amazing

i have a component escort in the lotus (everything is invisible + laser jamming, and voice alarms - V1 does not have laser jamming, and just goes "beep" hard to know 'what' signal it is on the V1) i prefer the escort, but its not cheap.
 

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My 9500ix was noisy at first, but after a few weeks it learned were everything is and now if it goes off, there is a cop sitting somewhere and I can spot them.

Just a great unit !!!
+1, thats what i would get now, if i was shopping for a new unit system.
 

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i don't live in the city, so i don't need it to learn anything. I need it to jam, detect, and stop or minimize a ticket in the country, where state police hunt for you on back roads - fitfan - which component escort do you have that does all that cool stuff and is hidden?
 

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look up k-40. I have one of these and its unparalleled. Cant really be stolen either (unless you take the whole car, which, if you can figure out the security system, you deserve it.) =]
 

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with my 9500 and a few vipers before I learned what constitutes a good detector I have had one ticket for 5mph over the limit at 3am going home from a potential future ex's apartment... This was 15 years ago as well. The 9500 has saved my ass just like the V1 saved yours. They are both fine pieces I just prefer the 9500.

Buy both and return the one you don't like :)
 

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I can't stand having something stuck to my winshield, especially the V1 seeing how it is massive. Right now I'm using a whistler pro-3600 which is a bumper/hidden system. I actually like it and it seems to work quite well for the price it is. When I sell the car and get a new car, I will probably upgrade though.
 

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This is a two and a half year old repost from here...

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f133/best-radar-laser-detector-buy-75888/index2.html#post1393566

...I junked the V1 almost three years ago and my only regret is I didn't do it sooner. V1 is like Bose. Very good, but living on reputation / hype. The truly discerning know.

"I'd been a Fanatical V1 Fanboy since 2000 (defending its honor, and its arrows, privately and publicy, including elsewhere here on LT), but I just got a 9500ix and there's no question, that it is the current state of the art and the superior unit. Overall I have to give it and it's technology the win. I'd consider still using the V1 for long haul roadtrips with mostly freeway or rural driving, but for commuting there is no comparison (and I've forked over the ~$1,000 to own both). Trust me, I didn't want to stray from the V1, or spend the extra $500, but nothing speaks more loudly than the 9500ix's innovations.

The 9500ix is not perfect, I have a few nits on my wishlist, but the V1 can't stack up to:

GPS Chipset Eliminates False Alerts
Speed / Red Light Camera Database
AutoLearn
TrueLock False Alert Signal Rejection
Mark Location Speed Trap Database
SpeedAlert Speed Display
AutoSensitivity Mode
City, Highway, and AutoSensitivity Modes (w/ an Auto "No X Band" feature)
Audio Alert Only Mode
Auto and Manual Muting
Maximum/Medium/Minimum/Dark Display Settings
Auto Brightness Adjustment
Battery Voltage Indicator + Low Voltage Warning
AutoVolume Automatically Adjustable Audio Levels

Passport 9500ix User Customizable Features
Power-On Indication
AutoLearn (On/Off)
SpeedAlert (On/Off)
Signal Strength Meter
AutoMute (On/Off)
AutoVolume (On/Off)
AutoPower (On/Off)
Units (English/Metric)
Voice Alerts (On/Off)
5 Levels of Brightness Control (including a dark mode which I use in the Lotus as I have the detector mounted on an S111 CRD mount atop my harness bar)

I agree that the V1's arrows are a nice to have, but the amount of false alarms caused me to start being less diligent and that's no good. Especially since the main artery in and out of my town is THICK with constant false alarms now thanks to these guys S P E E D I N F O :: delivering data that knows your flow

The 9500ix, in addition to manual false alarm lockout-abilities has this TSR.

About TSR
The propietary Escort TSR (Traffic Sensor Rejection) software is specifically for filtering traffic sensors that cause radar detectors to continuously alert on K band. These traffic sensors are typically set up on highways in series so that there is a prolonged distance of this K-band falsing. When enabled our TSR software will recognize and not alert to these sensors while still alerting to other radar signals as normal.

Halleluiah! No reason to live with false alarms anymore.

The V1 is a piece of technology that Moore's Law doesn't seem to have applied to these past few years and that's too bad. What we really need is to have the two companies merge (I believe Mike Valentine was with Escort back in the day?) and incoprorate their respective patented technologies into one family of detectors."
 
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