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TROY, Michigan — Saleen, maker of countless Mustang-based hot rods and the S7 racecar, will unveil a midengine sports car concept at the 2008 New York Auto Show in March.

Unlike the roughly $700,000 S7, which was a purpose-built racecar that was occasionally licensed for the street, the S5S Raptor is a vision for the "premium performance market with segment-leading horsepower." In other words, this will be a sports car designed primarily for the street instead of the track. Saleen says power will come from a supercharged 5.0-liter engine that runs on E85 ethanol. We expect that the Raptor's motor will be based on the supercharged 5.0-liter Ford-based V8 that already powers the company's S302E Mustang-based car. In the S302E, the engine is rated at 620 horsepower. That should give it the necessary oomph to make it to the 200 mph top speed Saleen is estimating.

The body, which looks in the sketch provided here like a very muscular Lotus Exige, would be fitted to an aluminum space frame. Chief Technical Officer Chris Theodore has been earlier quoted as saying the company could be interested in producing a car in the $150,000 range, so we would expect that the Raptor, if it makes it to production, will be somewhere in that range. Incidentally, Theodore has some experience with $150,000 Ford-powered, midengine sports cars. He was a driving force behind the creation of the Ford GT while he was a vice president with the Dearborn, Michigan carmaker.

Will Saleen build it? The company claims that it will be gauging reaction to the concept from its dealers, the media and attendees at the New York auto show. Theodore says that the Raptor could make it to market within two to three years from the time it gets the green light.

What this means to you: The S7 never made much sense to us because we don't own a Le Mans race team, but an all-American Ferrari fighter? That's intriguing








My thoughts: I don't really see the Exige resemblance. I think if any company has the reputation to build a domestic car that can challenge Ferrari, it's Saleen.


I think the S7's obvious downfall is its price. Who has $600,000? :p
 

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Looks pretty cool from the sketch, and I'd agree that they might be able to pull it off. I like how they're going slowly developing into a full-blown manufacturer. Good luck to them!
 

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The difference between this car and a Mosler MT900 is that the Mosler, although priced competitively, is basically a slightly over-sized Exige. It's a race car. Doesn't even have power steering.


This will be Saleen's GT car. And for actual sales, that's the right way to go.



Given the choice, I'd take the Mosler :p
 

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"I think the S7's obvious downfall is its price. Who has $600,000? :p"

Some people must have the money to buy them cause i saw 4 of them at the woodward dream cruise pretty sweet car
 

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The difference between this car and a Mosler MT900 is that the Mosler, although priced competitively, is basically a slightly over-sized Exige. It's a race car. Doesn't even have power steering.
The main difference to appears to be that the Saleen will be attractive... rotfl
 

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The main difference to appears to be that the Saleen will be attractive... rotfl
I saw one in person at last year's NYIAS and it looks great in person. Maybe it needs a little refreshing, but remember, it was conceived in the early part of this decade and was just recently legalized.
 

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How is the S7 a boat? It weighs less than a Cayman S.
more of the size than its weight...-poke-
yes, the car is too long; it's got huge rear overhangs. They need to chop like 2 feet from the end of the car. Similar to what the did with C5 > C6 vette
 

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The new (April '08) Road & Track has an artist rendering based on a pic of the clay model. Looks pretty cool.
 

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If the Elise, and GT-R had a baby. And chose the Elise's genes for weight.
 

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The S7 was purpose built as a racecar first, and has been extremely successful. It still holds track records, some of which will never be broken with changes in class specifications. The long overhangs are to achieve the appropriate downforce, not to get into driveways or look attractive.

The reason the Ford GT is built with such quality is that Saleen built it. The union workers at Ford negotiated to put in the engine and drivetrain and thus finish the "assembly". Saleen can design and build a fantastic car.

If anyone is going to build a new high performance sports car in America, Saleen is the deal. BUT - and here's the problem - Steve Saleen sold out his rights to the company due to financial issues in building the GT. It does look like the guys at the top are all long-time car nuts, including the previous technical director of the GT project. So hopefully things will continue on course. They do have the background in production and racing that could be a hell of a combo.

You know, you can say a company like Ferrari races and the technology trickles down to the road cars, which it does. But you have to respect the S7, as it IS a race car, with little changes other than interior trimmings and emissions from the records-holding racer.
 
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