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Hello.
I am selling my car for 15500.
Need cash.
I have three Attys on my payroll.
Its all too complicated and long to write about but my story is a very long one.
I want to see my Son again and it will take money.
The car I am selling is worth every penny.
I can send as many pics as youd like or video.
Its on kijiji edmonton classic cars as well.
Mike.
 

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I read your ad on KIJI, I think it was that someone posted the link to, you should remove the bit about why you are selling the car, and take it outside and snap a few better photos, like whole car shots.

Im a bike enthusiast, I buy and sell bikes alot, and have found that no one really cares much about one's situation, they want what they want, and they want it as cheap as possibile, most of the time, every now and then someone buys something for an ungodly high price, and doesnt want to negotiate, but not often. (I once sold this extremely overweight nurse a crotch rocket that I way way overpriced and she didnt negotiate at all) I actually experimented with "must sell for ___________" (different reasons) thinking it might provoke some response, no difference.

Myself I cringe when I read ads like that, it sounds like you are not only offering up a car, but come and see it and I will tell you a story you dont care about.

Sorry if thats harsh, but thats me when it comes to buying and selling. When I am buying its all about what im buying and all about the cash when selling, not who or why.

Take this with a grain of salt, just trying to help you sell it.

I remember your posts about your divorce, I do hope it all works out, been there myself.
 

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I would also mention that your price is in CDN dollars as at 92 cents U.S. It makes a difference to any U.S buyers (wasn't this originally a U.S car ?)
 

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+10 for Amanda
You don't need to drag your personal problem & your love ones to sell the car....or anything the other lawyer can spot or use something against you. it's just a cheesy way of selling a car. I will delete it if I were you.
 

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I also believe those are '93 SE wheels, not the actual X180R wheels. I think the real X180R were two or three piece and bigger size....and probably mostly unobtainable these days.
 

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Agreed with all of the above about removing any personal items from the sales list. Delete all references to why you are selling the car, please! No one needs to know the personal details of ones life. And do not give anyone a biopic of your situation, either. You have no way of knowing if any potential buyer is, well, a lawyer or private investigator working for the opposite side in what is a "high stakes" situation.

If anyone asks--and they will ask--why you are selling the Lotus, simply say, "I decided it was time to devote more energy to my family instead of my hobbies." Do not elaborate, do not explain, do not go into detail about anything except the car, the car, the car, the car and, oh yes!: The car.

Good luck with everything--I hope someone here can buy it!

Cheers,

Scott
 

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I agree - the buyer wants a positive experience with buying, and the baggage you hang on the car at purchase time kills the buzz.

When I have finally saved enough to buy a toy, the last thing I want to feel is guilt as to why you can't keep it anymore.

That said, I feel for you, and wish you peace once this all settles out.
 

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I disagree with the posters above me. I think it will help sell the car depending on the type of buyer that sees the ad and knows the story. If I was a buyer and I had two equally good car lined up, I would buy this one instead knowing that the money is going to be used on something as dear as a child. Maybe I'm just a big softy. Good luck OP.
 

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I disagree with the posters above me. I think it will help sell the car depending on the type of buyer that sees the ad and knows the story. If I was a buyer and I had two equally good car lined up, I would buy this one instead knowing that the money is going to be used on something as dear as a child. Maybe I'm just a big softy. Good luck OP.
Disagree with this and agree with the others..
1. Personal history, etc. ADDS NOTHING and helps ZERO in the sale

2. Many might see it as the car, due to circumstances, has been neglected

3. Would lower price as they see as desperate..
 

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Disagree with this and agree with the others..
1. Personal history, etc. ADDS NOTHING and helps ZERO in the sale

2. Many might see it as the car, due to circumstances, has been neglected

3. Would lower price as they see as desperate..



That's fine that you disagree. You obviously fall into the category of people that care not about the story. No problem with that. However, your number 1 is false since it may pursued some buyers. Like the example I gave earlier. If I had two equally good cars lined up, I would buy this one knowing where the money is going to. You don't care which is fine. And I'm not sure why you would think that the car is neglected. From what I can see in the pictures, the car looks pretty good. Also the buyer has to do his or her due diligence when buying a used car anyways so that point is moot. Again, most buyers won't give a crap because it's all about them and the car. That's fine. But there is someone out there that may care and I don't see how his story hurts. If you buyer only cares about the car, he/she will go see it regardless of the story. If the buyer cares about the story he/she may give it more consideration. Either way, he wins.
 

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That's fine that you disagree. You obviously fall into the category of people that care not about the story. No problem with that. However, your number 1 is false since it may pursued some buyers. Like the example I gave earlier. If I had two equally good cars lined up, I would buy this one knowing where the money is going to. You don't care which is fine. And I'm not sure why you would think that the car is neglected. From what I can see in the pictures, the car looks pretty good. Also the buyer has to do his or her due diligence when buying a used car anyways so that point is moot. Again, most buyers won't give a crap because it's all about them and the car. That's fine. But there is someone out there that may care and I don't see how his story hurts. If you buyer only cares about the car, he/she will go see it regardless of the story. If the buyer cares about the story he/she may give it more consideration. Either way, he wins.
I did not mean to infer THIS CAR was neglected, but others may see it that way not knowing his history here...

I have bought from people who "advertised" their personal dilemnas (divorce, etc.) and can tell you I got a much better price due to the stress that was upon them. Not saying that is the case here though I beleive many could view this way..
 

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I did not mean to infer THIS CAR was neglected, but others may see it that way not knowing his history here...

I have bought from people who "advertised" their personal dilemnas (divorce, etc.) and can tell you I got a much better price due to the stress that was upon them. Not saying that is the case here though I beleive many could view this way..


Totally understand. But to be honest, people will lowball regardless of the situation. I have never sold anything without someone low balling me and I never provided any sob story with it. As a seller, I have the right to refuse unreasonable offers.

I don't think it is wrong if you got a great price because it was a stressed sale. In fact, that should be the way it is since it is a free market. If the buyer is willing to sell this car for even 5k and both buyer and seller have a meeting of the minds, then so be it. That is a good thing!

What I respectfully disagree on is the statement that it can not help the sale. The percentage of people that may care would be quite low, but count me in. Now I'm not saying that I would buy the car face value or without prior interest. But if I was in the market for this exact car, I would personally give it more bias. What I do find a bit callous is the fact that people could essentially say screw your personal story, I just want the car. However, even then it is beneficial to the seller because he only cares about selling the car, period. Just my personal thoughts for whatever it is worth.
 

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It can be helpful to know why the owner is selling the car. Buyers don't want a problem car that is being dumped because the owner is tired of always working on it. But the full story isn't needed, just enough to know the motivation for the sale.


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2. Many might see it as the car, due to circumstances, has been neglected

3. Would lower price as they see as desperate..


This is exactly what I would think. The seller is desperate and needs cash, the car *may* as a result have deferred maintenance issues. I saw the ad yesterday. The part about the kid abandoning him was especially cringe worthy. It would definitely turn off buyers.

I've seen much nicer cars sell in this price range. Recently Donzi's 90 SE or bbarton's 91 SE. But at like 15.5 and 17k, they were bargains considering good cosmetics and meticulous owners that did over and above required maintenance.

If someone actually wants to sell, a realistic price is essential.

Mpesik's car looks ok. The leather is extra wrinkled. Shouldn't have any problems getting bids on eBay, but 15.5 might be just a little bit optimistic. Edit: just read that is Canadian currency, so I think the asking price seems pretty spot on. Still a slow market though. I wouldn't expect it to sell fast.

The Esprit market seems quite depressed. I kept waiting for the summer prices to spike but haven't seen it. Saw a really sweet red on raven black SE with less than 14k miles, fresh engine service, upgraded turbo and brakes etc that only bid up to 20k on eBay. Probably a long way from meeting reserve. The dealer has it listed on their site for 32. Beautiful car but overpriced in this market.
 

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The bottom line---personal story like divorce - dying - died -fired - sick and other ill wind has no place selling cars.....period!
You lie or not still cheesy ad and BS.....period!
Not a "smidgen" of credibility !!! lol:
 

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When I buy a used car from a private individual I always want to know why they are selling.
It helps me to understand the owner and the car better.i also want to know how long they had it, maintenance, problems etc.
However, I agree that I wouldn't put it in the ad, nor would I want to hear the dirty details of one's personal problems.
The single word divorce or, finances, or moving etc. is enough.
Would a sob story make me more motivated to buy? Nope!

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Thank You for replying.
I am very honest and am a nobody.
I have nothing to lose by telling the truth.
This is me.
Would you rather buy a car from a guy that hasnt driven it or uninsured it without an explaination? Youd think, WTheck?
Imagine the wheels turning in the buyers head!?
If I were looking for a car, Id want to know why the fella is selling so soon.
Its nothing to do with sympathy.

Its about honesty.
I know I am a different breed.
Considering what I have gone through, it will never change me.
Oh yea..There is much value in that!
 

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Oh yea.. Nessal..you have perhaps driven on the same Avenue as I have.
Different man.
You and I could perhaps have serious talks about many of things.
For you, I will sell the car for $ 10,000.
Mike.
 
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