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LH gained an advantage by using the runoff area. The penalty is deserved.
 

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LH gained an advantage by using the runoff area. The penalty is deserved.
Yeah, and Nick Heidfield did the same by switching to intermediates :wallbang:
 

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I apparently missed quite a good race...
One of the best, IMHO. The penalty is asinine, although even before the pass I thought that Hamilton should simply wait to pass safely on the straight where the McLaren had the legs to do it easily after drafting.
 

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LH gained an advantage by using the runoff area. The penalty is deserved.
But wait, he gave up the place. Is he supposed to spot Kimi even more?
 

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Yeah, and Nick Heidfield did the same by switching to intermediates :wallbang:
There is no rule against swtiching tires, there is a rule against gaining an advantage while not even on the track !:panic:
 

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There is no rule against swtiching tires, there is a rule against gaining an advantage while not even on the track !:panic:
Like Kimi did when he and LH both went off but LH came back on while Kimi stayed off on the run off and did not lose any time?

Like that kind of unfair advantage -poke-

FIA is a joke :mad:

McLaren should quit F1 and start a rival series without Ferrari :wallbang::shift:
 

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There is no rule against swtiching tires, there is a rule against gaining an advantage while not even on the track !:panic:
This happens all the time where there are chicanes and as long as the driver "gives up" any advantage he gained by allowing the other car(s) to re-pass, I have not seen penalties such as this applied before. When I heard of the stewards enquiry, I thought it was more likely to be about Kimi not allowing Hamilton racing room....silly me!

The FIA is making F1 a laughing stock.
 

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LH used that illegally gained momentum, barely let Kimi pass them fell right into the slipstream - he gained an advantage, period. Did he suffer at all from a missed pass ? No = advantage. I think LH would have passed him anyways as he was much faster, but you can't do it like that.
 

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LH gained an advantage by using the runoff area. The penalty is deserved.
What rubbish!

Kimi gave Lewis nowhere to go but off the track. Lewis did what he supposed to do and gave the position back. Was he any closer to Kimi after rejoining the track than he was before the 'incident'? Where was the advantage?
 

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What rubbish!

Kimi gave Lewis nowhere to go but off the track. Lewis did what he supposed to do and gave the position back. Was he any closer to Kimi after rejoining the track than he was before the 'incident'? Where was the advantage?
Yes, he was alot closer - that is the advantage. LH probably would have won anyways without doing that - so why. Just my opinion.

Complain here if you want to:

Belgium Grand Prix - Lewis Hamilton was unfairly stripped of his win Petition
 

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whether any of us, agree on the penalty or not, bottom line is FIA dont like Ron Dennis nor McLaren...nuff said

i hope Massa or Kimi would pull something out of the bag for the last 5 races, if not LH along with McLaren will end up being champs
 

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LH used that illegally gained momentum, barely let Kimi pass them fell right into the slipstream - he gained an advantage, period. Did he suffer at all from a missed pass ? No = advantage. I think LH would have passed him anyways as he was much faster, but you can't do it like that.
So now slipstreaming should be penalised aswell.:rolleyes: C'mon It is debatable on who was wrong at the busstop. To me it looked as if LH had the advantage. KR like any racingdriver would do just let the car run wide, forcing the other to back down and avoiding a collision. LH went off track, found the tarmac bypass and got back onto the circuit.

It was an intelligent move to back off and let KR pass. Nowwhere it is stated that you have to leave a gap. You have to give the trackposition back. That is what he did. After KR got in front it's ok to start racing again. Heck KR even went into the defensive mode swirling all over the track.
 

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LH used that illegally gained momentum, barely let Kimi pass them fell right into the slipstream - he gained an advantage, period. Did he suffer at all from a missed pass ? No = advantage. I think LH would have passed him anyways as he was much faster, but you can't do it like that.
in a word:

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So now slipstreaming should be penalised aswell.:rolleyes: C'mon It is debatable on who was wrong at the busstop. To me it looked as if LH had the advantage. KR like any racingdriver would do just let the car run wide, forcing the other to back down and avoiding a collision. LH went off track, found the tarmac bypass and got back onto the circuit.

It was an intelligent move to back off and let KR pass. Nowwhere it is stated that you have to leave a gap. You have to give the trackposition back. That is what he did. After KR got in front it's ok to start racing again. Heck KR even went into the defensive mode swirling all over the track.
Debatable - sure. The rules say nothing about giving the position back etc.. they say an advantage can not be gained by doing that. LH gained an advantage.
 

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Signed :up:

Today was a great day for F1, they put on a great show and then the FIA fcuked it up :thwack:

Why do they run the races?

I guess they want to know which driver in a Red car wins the championship :wallbang:

I hope Ron gets Red Bull, Toyota, BMW & Honda (Possibly Renault but they are French...) together to start a new series without the FIA and Ferrari. His pitch is simple, Ferrari and the FIA will never let you win so why play? They are spending so much money they don't need the FIA and the Red cars.


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well you know, lewis actually caused the red car to spin and run off track just by being present. hey, make up any bs you want in reporting fia decisions!

at least now i don't feel so bad that the indy race is gone.
 

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This is total BS :mad:. How does FIA get away with this? Mclaren should just leave F1 and see what kind of a show FIA can put on without them.
 
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