I would totally do it if the Radium product were not so expensive. I just bought another set of the star variety from Yoram so I can powder coat them in black just in case I don't like it.And for circumstances like this, the reasoning for going to studs becomes clear.
Well, no.And for circumstances like this, the reasoning for going to studs becomes clear.
Since the wheels on our cars locate on a central boss, there is no "fumbling" involved. But I'll go ahead and concede this point.Convenience is one of the reasons for studs. You pick up the tire, slide it over studs and can then pull your hands free. No fumbling (holding the tire with one hand) while rotating the tire to find the hole for a bolt and then trying to thread it in.
Sorry, that is incorrect. It doesn't even make sense on the face of it.Studs are usually made from a higher (and harder) grade steel than bolts.
If you crossthread either a lug nut or lug bolt, you are an idiot. However, let's put that aside.If you cross thread a nut on a stud, replace the stud. If you cross thread a screw into your hub, you are out replacing a hub.
You can switch to conventional hex-head bolts if you don't like the 10pt gizmo. I have, as I mentioned.No fancy 10 point bolt gizmo to lose, strip, or wear.
This is flat wrong. Studs, like bolts, stretch each time they are torqued. Studs are fine if you're replacing the tires every couple of years, but if you are constantly retorquing nuts on them (as you racers do) they will stretch to the replacement point much more quickly. You have it precisely backwards.Still, you are largely correct, it does tend to be a racer thing. Bolts are fine if the only time the wheels are off, is to replace the tires every couple years.
I have another reason for keeping my bolts. I street park my car in New York every night, and I see cars in the neighborhood all the time up on blocks. It's cheap insurance against wheel theft, the way our stock wheels are designed you can't even use the 19mm 12-point socket + sledgehammer trick that works on BMWs.Well, no.
Switching to a bolt with a conventional head, maybe. But I'm still to be convinced that a stud is better than a bolt.
What's odd is that it's you racer guys who make the stud argument. For someone in competition, a wheel fastener is a consumable. They stretch after repeated torquings, and should be replaced for safety. It seems to be that a bolt makes vastly more sense for that application than a stud does. Which may be why you see bolts on cars like, say, a Lotus.
I've switched my fasteners to BMW bolts, and will post on that shortly. I did this more for convenience than anything else, because that 10-point key might get lost one day or get damaged from repeated use. But studs still seem kind of pointless to me-- unless you're saying you are putting new studs in the hub in your workshop every season, in which case I withdraw my comments above.
If you're talking about an aftermarket, upgraded stud, you need to compare it to an aftermarket, upgraded bolt.I believe we will simply have to agree, to disagree. When you get some time, put some quality studs on a rockwell tester, compare that to stock bolts, get back with me; although, the result of that test is already known to me.
Makes sense to me. Plackslayer is finding out just how hard those things are to remove! (Just razzing you, Placky!)I have another reason for keeping my bolts. I street park my car in New York every night, and I see cars in the neighborhood all the time up on blocks. It's cheap insurance against wheel theft, the way our stock wheels are designed you can't even use the 19mm 12-point socket + sledgehammer trick that works on BMWs.
Right on. And thanks for flying the Lotus flag in NYC-- the first time I ever saw a Lotus on the street was when I moved to New York as a teenager. It was sooooo cool. And I thought, man, if I ever get a Lotus, it's going to be British racing green just like that one...Regardless, my car is primarily a street car, I plan to replace the bolts every 5 years or so (with OEM), and I doubt I'm going to be having problems with the bolts turning themselves out or breaking. I'll take the convenience so I can waste more time cleaning up the wear and tear on other parts so the car keeps looking new.