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I'm struggling with a decision. I've wanted an Elise for as long as I can remember, but I've been driving around in a friends Porsche 996 911 Turbo. I realize these are two different cars, but at the same time they are very much the same. Both are basically street legal race cars. One with a few more creature comforts than the other. Either way my struggle has only increased my down payment to the point I can almost buy an Elise straight out.

Just wondering what are your opinions of this comparison? I'm currently running around in my SLK55 //AMG. Loads of fun, just not enough grip in the bends.
 

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Neither one is a street legal race car. The Lotus is small and nimble, the Porsche is faster in a straight line. The Lotus doesn't have more "grip" than your AMG or the Porsche, it just feels better connected. If you like creature comforts you'll hate the Lotus.
 

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Actually I would argue they are so very different. I do not consider a 996T a race car, rather a fast GT car. If I had the choice, I would also consider long term cost of ownership (actually that would be my main concern). This has been argued to death on this forum but I cannot see an Elise as a daily commuter car...SLK55 or 996T could be great daily cars and fun at the track once in a while. If you just enjoy a fast car for fun driving daily and weekends with loads of Tq then 996T. Elise is not the same animal at all, noisy, everything cracks and shakes, very basic options, forget listening to music while driving etc...

All that said....I traded my 997 C2S for my Elise :) confused yet!
 

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Actually it doesn't confuse me at all. I'm keeping the 55 for daily use and using the p-car or lotus for mountain carving and curb hopping at the track. Maybe at the end of next year ill swap the 55 for a C63. I already get enough crap for only driving 2 seaters lol.

I drove the Elise before I bought the slk, but I was looking for something more daily drivable. I regret not buying it though, but at the same time I know I would've hated driving it on a daily basis.

Btw the 55 has little to no grip. The Porsche and Lotus has leaps and bounds more. Slow or fast corner.
 

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Dude, go for your dream not for some other car that 'might' be better than what you always wanted.

The elise doesn't disappoint anyone, and what's better, each elise can be tuned to your own taste since in stock form they always have things that you don't like. I found that by doing this to my car i feel i made it my own and special car, and you won't get that with porsche
 

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If the Elise is what you always wanted, then get it, cause otherwise you will always have that itch to scratch. If you regret your decision by buying one, you can always sell it.

I had an elise then sold it, got me a viper srt 10 and ended up regretting it. I got bored with it. I realized that im a lotus guy, and you will never ever find another car on this planet that compares to the driving experience of a lotus. Now im back with an Exige, and i dont think i will ever sell it.

Buying a car is never permanent you can always sell!
 

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Have got to play with both, and there is no wrong answer. Both cars are great.

Dont know how much racing you do/watch/know about but...
Stock vs Stock (money can change everything)


The Lotus is a classical small bore car. Quick, nimble, turn in is great, oh yep they do go down the long straight but they are built for the corners.

The Porsche is more of a classical big bore car. Fast, handles good (better than most actually), and are MUCH faster down the straights than a Lotus.

At the local track here (HPR), the Lotus will lose 3-5 car lengths down the long straight, and make up 3 - 5 car lengths through the twisty sections, (Ross can give better details as he has the better track budget).

I have been rumored to frustrate more that one 911Turbo driver going down (as in elevation) mountain highways that have great 30 or so mile sections where, with gravity's help, the P cars could not loose me (just for prospective a third friend in a mostly stock C5 Corvette is rumored to have given up after a mile or two trying to keep us in sight on one of the trips). Going up the highway is a different story.
 

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I owned a Boxster S for 7 years before getting my Elise and really loved the car, but even the Boxster is walking the line between a GT and a sports car. The turbo is even further into the GT realm. You can find half a dozen really nice cars that are capable of amazing performance and are comfortable to drive every day. But they are heavier and less involving than they would be if they had been designed with a singular focus.

This is what makes the Elise special, it's a raw, true sports car in a way that none of it's peers are. It was designed with a singular purpose, to involve you in the driving experience as much as possible. You have to sacrifice storage space, noise isolation, and comfort to get what the Elise offers, and no Porsche does, even the GT3 is a comfy ride compared to the Elise.

Plus, Porsche doesn't make anything nearly as cool looking at this.


You need to really consider what you want and you'll have your answer.
 

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Plus, Porsche doesn't make anything nearly as cool looking at this.


You need to really consider what you want and you'll have your answer.
You must be smoking crack





 

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Subjective, but the CGT is too big in person and I don't like the transition from the passenger compartment to the engine cover, it's weird. The 911 is not especially pretty, the more wings and slits that get tacked on, the worse it gets. There's something about the front overhang on every post 1998 Porsche that just bothers me. The big GT bumpers only make it worse. I've yet to see a 918 in person so I am holding judgement, but I think it's about the same size as the CGT, big car.
 

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but at the same time they are very much the same.
well they both have 4 wheels and 2 doors, but thats about where the similarity ends.

996 gt3 is somewhere between the two.
 

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I think the 918 is pure sex, but honestly, if you look hard enough, I can almost see similarities between the 918 and an Elise! The wheels on the 918 are divine!

As for the CGT, I like it but I don't love it. I just think for that price point, it's just not beautiful. As others note, it looks a bit stretched too me - primarily from the cockpit to the rear.
 

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CGT is just amazing. (although the transition between the cabin and engine does look a little weird.)

I loved working around them.
 

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cgt has awkward lines. The sound though...........omg the sound. I am getting a bit choked up thinking about it.
 

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cgt has awkward lines. The sound though...........omg the sound. I am getting a bit choked up thinking about it.
Yep. I recall the first time I heard one. Last summer. Wife and I in California for Monterey Week - pure car porn heaven. Driving north on the famous Hwy 1 through Big Sur up to Monterey. Us in our rental Nissan Versa.

I hear some cars coming up behind me. Keep in mind, this is Monterey Week so EVERY car on the road that week is more amazing then the next. The car passes me. Then another. Then another. Then another.

Can't find the pic but it was, in this order:

Silver Carrera GT. Red Carrera GT. 1930's Blower Bentley. Sang Noir Veyron.

Wow.

Put it this way, the seats on that Versa are no longer clean!
 

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The 911 is FAR more street friendly and cushy compared to an Elige.

The Evora S is probably a far better comparison.

The whole comparison is somewhat funny to me. My car before the Elise was a Factory Five Cobra. No roof. No windshield wipers. No heater. No radio. 2300 pounds with 300hp/325tq. To me, the Elise is a luxury street car.
 

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You need to get an exige with a BOE supercharger and some other upgrades (suspension/brakes) to be better than a "turbo" in the twisties and close in the straights.


Or you can get an Exige S260........


The exige s260 sport and cup varients are true "race cars" for the street.
Think of it as lotus verson of the GT3 RS 3.8
 

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I'm struggling with a decision. I've wanted an Elise for as long as I can remember, but I've been driving around in a friends Porsche 996 911 Turbo. I realize these are two different cars, but at the same time they are very much the same. Both are basically street legal race cars. One with a few more creature comforts than the other. Either way my struggle has only increased my down payment to the point I can almost buy an Elise straight out.

Just wondering what are your opinions of this comparison? I'm currently running around in my SLK55 //AMG. Loads of fun, just not enough grip in the bends.
I can't believe everyone of you missed the obvious answer - get both of them! ;)
 
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