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Suspension Elise Mk2 (Blisten op Nitron?)

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Good morning, i ask you about suspension for Elise S2 (111S)
I want to buy Blisten LSS (for 135 and 190......) or Nitron

I don't now which are the best ones...

In particular someone knows Blisten LSS (they are spirng softer than Nitron.... 275 ant and 325 post)
What thoughts of these dampers?

What preferred between Blisten and Nitron? I have wheels 6.5 front and 8.0 rear and i want to put yoko 048.

For Nitron is better whit spirng 325 front and 400 rear or 400 front and 475 rear?
Best Regards
Andyy

p.s In Italy they speak well about the Nitron but nobody knows the Blisten Lss...
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Andyy said:
Good morning, i ask you about suspension for Elise S2 (111S)
I want to buy Blisten LSS (for 135 and 190......) or Nitron

I don't now which are the best ones...

In particular someone knows Blisten LSS (they are spirng softer than Nitron.... 275 ant and 325 post)
What thoughts of these dampers?

What preferred between Blisten and Nitron? I have wheels 6.5 front and 8.0 rear and i want to put yoko 048.

For Nitron is better whit spirng 325 front and 400 rear or 400 front and 475 rear?
Best Regards
Andyy

p.s In Italy they speak well about the Nitron but nobody knows the Blisten Lss...
Andyy, not sure where you are based but for more information have a look on www.seloc.org as this is a european site with much more experience of Nitrons.
I use them as for track use they are superior to the Lotus specified dampers as they are adjustable and work with stiffer springs.
Thanks you,

the forum Seloc is a lot interesting.
Andyy
LSS springs are 270 lb/in and 370 lb/in, F/R. The base touring springs are 10 % softer.
I knew of 250 Lb front and 325 Lb rear for Bilstein Lss.........
They are not softer? Nitron put 325 front and 400 rear or 400 front or 500 rear.....
Andyy
>>>I knew of 250 Lb front and 325 Lb rear for Bilstein Lss.........
They are not softer?<<<

No they are stiffer than that for LSS. 270 and 370. And those are ~10% more than base. Here's an LSS spring picture...do the conversion from N/mm to lb/in.



Suspension design is more than just stiffness.
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Thanks,
I had wrong information... but these spring force are Lss for 111S or 111R? Or Both?
Andyy
>>>I had wrong information... but these spring force are Lss for 111S or 111R? Or Both? <<<

Both, per the Lotus Accessories book. They are from the Exige track car.
FYI, the alternative Ohlins suspension has springs rated at:
Front: 325lb
Rear: 425 lb.

Hope it helps....
>>>Front: 325lb Rear: 425 lb. <<<

So compared to the 270 & 370 LSS/Exige springs, the fronts are +20% and the rears are +15 %. Do you know if there is a suggested front sway bar change? Is there any information about the I.D. of these springs? Thanks.
Thanks Theob....
Meby the best dampers? But the price......
Do you have Ohlins with these springs? What do you think?

With front 325 and rear 425 .......are ok for road? No too much hard?
And in track?

Which is the best calibretion for compression damping and rebound damping for track?
And for road?

Thanks
Andyy
I haven't bought them yet! I've only blue'n'gold hues in my dreams lately!!!:D :D

Since they've not been released for the 111R (They'll be out on sale in mid-November) nobody but some very early Exige Ohlins buyers can tell us the difference.

Also, as far as track configuration, I assume that together with the fast-road configuration, they will give us also the track related one! :)


Cost apart, I'd personally go for the Ohlins. It's a Lotus tuned stuff, you see!
Nitrons and Canyons

Hey Knuckelhead
That was a nice Sunday canyon run. Sorry you guys had to leave early.
As far as the Ohlins go you will have to ask Stan since he was so instrumental to their development. The Nitrons have a greater range of spring height adjustment. After talking with Lillie at Sector 111 I went with for the Nitrons.....Ride quality and handling far better than sport setup....Single adjustment very easy......Ride height adjustment made easy...Spring rates are
easy to swap out just takes a little time... Thanks Neil

I'm really happy with my setup, this things is on rails now...Oh yea you can adjust the firmness to soften the ride for those long trips and the girls you bring along, but I have a feeling you may leave them firm and enjoy the view...

Take Care....Frank.aka Ronin
ronin said:
As far as the Ohlins go you will have to ask Stan since he was so instrumental to their development.
What's up with your tone?
I think he's just referring to your help with getting Ohlins perfected for the Elise.
Tone?

Stan said:
What's up with your tone?

Maybe a bit to much bass.........."Just quoting you".....Wink bling and subwoofers.............OK now I'll play nice...
Andyy,

I have a sport pack (LSS) Elise to which I had the single adjustable (as to compression and rebound) Nitrons installed (with 425/550 front and rear spring rates) and what a tremendous improvement. With the adjustability feature, the ride can be made more comfortable than the base Elise suspension or firmer than the LSS. Go with the Nitrons -- you won't be sorry.

I only hope the new "track pack" optional shocks/springs I ordered on the Exige are up to the task. Otherwise, I'll be selling them and going back to the Nitrons.
Jack said:
Andyy,

I have a sport pack (LSS) Elise to which I had the single adjustable (as to compression and rebound) Nitrons installed (with 425/550 front and rear spring rates) and what a tremendous improvement. With the adjustability feature, the ride can be made more comfortable than the base Elise suspension or firmer than the LSS. Go with the Nitrons -- you won't be sorry.

I only hope the new "track pack" optional shocks/springs I ordered on the Exige are up to the task. Otherwise, I'll be selling them and going back to the Nitrons.

Hey Jack, Frank here I had Niel at Sector 111 set me up with Eibach springs over the Nitrons...525 front 650 rear....Toybox 48s 7s & 8s , 195 and 245 o48s....Lowered inch +..It corners as if on rails and the ride is fine on the streets or canyons......
Do the Nitrons require a periodic rebuild like the Ohlins? The prospect of having to deal with that every 2-3 years has me on the fence.
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