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It has been confirmed by the Phoenix- there is water on Mars. As an astonomy buff- I find this exciting. Just in case someone hasn't heard yet....
 

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What? You mean there may be life, or was life, on other planets? Out of the billions of planets out there, our backward hostile, ignorant ape-race might not be the center of it all? We may not be "God's" most important creation? That doesn't set well with my Solar-deity mythology based religion pal! I will pray that it is just water.
 

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What? You mean there may be life, or was life, on other planets? Out of the billions of planets out there, our backward hostile, ignorant ape-race might not be the center of it all? We may not be "God's" most important creation? That doesn't set well with my Solar-deity mythology based religion pal! I will pray that it is just water.
My religion has already confirmed this thousands of years ago. time for you to join?
 

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That's great!
So when we all need to leave earth and have to move to Mars we Germans at least have water to brew our beer with...:D

But joke aside - do you have a link to this information?
 

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The Phoenix Mars Missionwas launched a year ago to look for water and the complex organic molecules that could be signs that life once existed on Mars.

Water had already been identified from a distance, by the Mars-orbiting Odyssey spacecraft, and Phoenix had photographed what was presumed to be melting ice at the landing site.

Phoenix landed on Mars two months ago. It is equipped with a telescoping arm to enable it to scoop up soil samples so they can be analyzed by the spacecraft's onboard instruments.

Although Phoenix is apparently sitting on top of a layer of ice just a few centimeters below the surface, the clumpy quality of the Martian soil made it difficult to retrieve a sample.

Finally, though, on Wednesday, Phoenix scientist William Boyton said they were able to analyze a soil sample and confirmed that it contained frozen water.

"We've now finally touched it and tasted it. That's one thing that hasn't been done before and I'd like to say from my standpoint, it tastes very fine, I'm very glad to be in this position"

Water, of course, is essential to life as we know it, but project scientist Peter Smith said they've found more than just water.

"We're also finding nutrients - sodium, potassium, magnesium, fluorides - things that we find in our own bodies and are definitely nutrients that are important for life. However, we have yet to discover organic materials."

Smith said it will be for future Mars missions to determine whether life has ever existed on Mars.

In the meantime, NASA has extended the Phoenix mission for another month, through the end of September.
 

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Sweeeet! Saw a bit on this but hadn't had a chance to read it.
 

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Yep, I went swimming there last month on vacation.
 

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That's great!
So when we all need to leave earth and have to move to Mars we Germans at least have water to brew our beer with...:D

But joke aside - do you have a link to this information?

me or trainwreck?
 

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Exactly what is so special about these new findings?

Wow. Water. No way.

You mean those polar ice caps have water in them?!?!?!

Just how much money have we spent for these trivial facts?

Sorry Trainwreck. I don't mean to rain on your thread. I will leave now.
 

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Exactly what is so special about these new findings?

Wow. Water. No way.

You mean those polar ice caps have water in them?!?!?!

Just how much money have we spent for these trivial facts?

Sorry Trainwreck. I don't mean to rain on your thread. I will leave now.
The greeks had some good philosophers and geometry for mathematics.
From Islam came Algebra.
There was a great period when Europe had limited knowledge, and even the notion that the Earth was not the center of the universe was heresy.

Where should one spend money? (pissing it away watching cable, NFL players and games, pornography)

At least we know something that we didn't know before.
 

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Exactly what is so special about these new findings?

Wow. Water. No way.

You mean those polar ice caps have water in them?!?!?!

Just how much money have we spent for these trivial facts?

Sorry Trainwreck. I don't mean to rain on your thread. I will leave now.
Oh- everybody is a spoilsort!!! LOL- just kidding, Exigest- it dosen't take much about the Mars mission to get me excited!! I interpreted it to mean there is more water than they ever expected!! But - yes to be honest I wouldn't mind having a bit of the money they have spent on this mission in my bank account. And yes- it the money would certainly feed a lot of starving people in third world countries. But you know the government doesn't care about that!!!
 

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First Planetary Geoligists found salt on Mars.
Now they found ice.
Next, they're looking for Tequila!:coolnana:

Seriously, I place planetary exploration and space exploration an extremely high priority in my mind.
I'm sorry that some people think the space progam is useless.
But arguing this is like evolution vs creationism, atheisim vs theisim or science vs religion.

So, while you argue....I'll go teach astronomy and bring my students under the brilliant stars. Then they can make their own, educated decisions of whether the space program is worth it or not.

--Hal
 

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First Planetary Geoligists found salt on Mars.
Now they found ice.
Next, they're looking for Tequila!:coolnana:

Seriously, I place planetary exploration and space exploration an extremely high priority in my mind.
I'm sorry that some people think the space progam is useless.
But arguing this is like evolution vs creationism, atheisim vs theisim or science vs religion.

So, while you argue....I'll go teach astronomy and bring my students under the brilliant stars. Then they can make their own, educated decisions of whether the space program is worth it or not.

--Hal
If people think it's useless (space exploration) they have no idea of the 'spinoffs' that were developed that are now used in everyday life.
The Space Place :: Inventions (Spinoffs) from Space
 

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This is great news.

If there was no water then we would have no future on mars.

Now that water is confirmed in the soil we are now sure that
- you can turn the water into rocket fuel
- you can use it to drink
- you can use it to make air (oxygen at least)
- you can use it to water plants in your mars greenhouse, etc

Having all this already there means we don't have to lug it there. And lugging it all there is not an option.

At the extreme end of things ... this means it becomes more likely that terraforming mars would be possible. (Think a 2nd earth. Not someday people living in bubbles... but instead grilling on the BBQ watching their kids playing in the grassy back yard while the distant earth rises like a blue star in the sky.) From everything I've read (example)this would still take thousands or hundreds of thousands of years of work but at least it now seems more possible.

How much is locked up in ice under the dirt will determine just how far humans can go. Someday becoming a two planet species will greatly enhance our chances of survival into the deep future.
 

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If someone found a way to transport large quantities of the water back to earth I can see it being the next big thing. Mars kool aid being served at extravagant parties xD.
 

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And yes- it the money would certainly feed a lot of starving people in third world countries. But you know the government doesn't care about that!!!
I've been hearing this crap for over 40 years.

If people think it's useless (space exploration) they have no idea of the 'spinoffs' that were developed that are now used in everyday life.
The Space Place :: Inventions (Spinoffs) from Space
+1000 Most people have absolutely no idea how much the space program has helped and improved life for us humans - and even saved more lives than you can imaging. Yes, money could have been spent feeding starving people for a few weeks. Instead the money was spent as an investment in the future and has improved crop yield, weather predictions, and more things that you can imagine. That money that was "wasted" on the space program has paid off many times more than if it had been used to feed a few people for a short while. :rolleyes:
 
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