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I've had the car for about three weeks and put on 1350 miles. Since I was involved in an accident in the M3, it just isn't the same to me anymore so a year ago, I started looking around. When I heard about the Elise, it seemed to be what the doctor ordered. My thought was that if I got in early enough, I might be lucky enough to get one of the first ones and I could try it out to see if I like it. Also, at the time of placing the order, people didn't really know how the colors would be so if I liked a different color, I could sell and get another one. So...as luck would have it, I was able to get one of the first ones and try it out.

After driving around for three weeks, I've tossed the idea back and forth. Right now, the M3 is kicked to the curb and parked outside. The only time it is able to take refuge in the garage is when the Elise was out...hehe. So...I already have no space for the car.

The next big issue would be...do I track the car or not? The M3 has already visited many tracks and has at least 4000 track miles on it. Obviously, the Elise is more a track car than the M3 out of the box, but it is a brand new car. I wouldn't want to stuff a 45k car into the wall, ya know? After getting the car, I was trying desperately to get the miles on to get past the first service so that I could take it the track. As luck would have it, all track schools were either sold out or didn't allow "convertibles". I've asked many local clubs about the eligibility of the Elise and they always say, "We'll get back to you," but never do. Being unable to attend the same track events with my friends is just going to suck.

Every time I get into the Elise, I know it's a special car. The attention it gets from everyone on the street is amazing. I'm kind of used to it now, but I took a friend on a trip to six flags and then to the beach this past weekend. She heard of the attention but didn't get to experience it first hand. As I'm cruising on the highway, I'd just tell her, "Check out those people checking out the car," or, "Look at the guy in the new 5 series fumbling in his backpack in the backseat while trying to keep the car in a turn to get a camera to take a picture of the car," or she would laugh in amazement as we cruised around the local streets and saw these two kids sitting on a bench and both of them just followed the car and craned their necks around as I made a turn. It's just that special. I always like it when people ask what is it and you say, "It's an Elise," and they say, "You leased it?" :D Going back into the M3, you blend in with everyone else. Not that this would necessarily be a bad thing. I also want a bit more power. To have a little fun in the M3, all you have to do is turn the steering wheel a bit and stab the throttle. That doesn't happen in the Elise. You have to rev the snot out of it in order for it to have any grunt.

So it would seem that I'm at a crossroad and am leaning towards selling the car. If they imported the Exige, I would be all over it as then my only caveat to attending a track event would be a request for slim instructors. Hehe. I think my biggest priority right now should be getting a house w/ a 2 car garage, lift, piped compressed air, etc.. :D So maybe next year I'll get another Elise (hopefully they will still offer Laser blue).

So? Any advice on selling it? Which places should I list it? How does one handle it so you don't get ripped off, etc... I think I paid $46.6k out the door with all fees/taxes, etc. If someone gives me say 50k for the car, how should I do it to make it a good experience for the buyer as well as myself? Any tips/advice would be greatly appreciated. Who knows...I might just keep the car :shrug:
 

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O, I was referring to the club chair people...so they would be BMW CCA people. I wasn't aware that the tracks have a stance since Porsche CCA has events at those same tracks, no? Doesn't Porsche clubs allow Cayennes?!?! :crazyeyes
 

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Heh...amazing what an accident does for your perception, eh? Before the accident, I washed the car very often, kept it clean, etc. Now, I've put 35k miles on the car in one year going to and from work. I also slapped a Thule rack on it that I had bought before taking delivery of the car but back then, just couldn't bring myself to installing. Last winter, it was the snowmobile...taking me snowboarding every other weekend :D

Ko, in terms of BMW CCA clubs and convertibles with hard tops, I think some of them required there to be a rollbar/cage under it. Having said that, I think a lot of clubs are starting to exclude that as well.

We were at the Glen back in July and the driver school chair of a different chapter visited and gave her speech on safety. She said that 95% of the cars that attend these schools should fail tech. We asked why...and she cited as a big #1 the use of the Schroth clip ins. Then she started rambling about how NASCAR is going to a seven point harness system and that she might want to require the club to use those if not using the stock three points. We kept trying to tell her that we all knew that 6 points with a rollbar/cage was better, but the real question was if the 4 points were better than the stock 3 points. Joe Marco of HMS motorsport was there and we all talked to him. It was a bit strange since we asked him if he knew of any concrete incidents where a car rolled and the occupants were wearing a 4 point setup. He said he didn't have concrete proof; however, a few hours later when we stopped by the trailer, he showed us some pics and sure enough, there was a car that rolled so bad, it was flat from hoodline to trunklid. The occupants were wearing the 4 points and survived. He said that if three points were worn, most likely the occupants' heads would have rolled out the window when the roof came down. We went back to the chair of the other chapter and she was still unsure....and yet still confused over making a distinction between 3 point/4 point and 3 point/6 or 7 point. Very difficult to reason with her...
 

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GVC has been pretty lethargic in responding to me whether or not they would allow the Elise. The way most clubs have viewed it, the hardtop wouldn't be structural so it wouldn't offer any additional protection.

http://www.gvc-bmwcca.org/watkinsglen/faq.asp

"We are no longer accepting convertibles - this is primarily due to the fact that we can't find instructors who are willing to ride in them."

I think things have changed a lot over the past few years and everyone is getting skittish with insurance claims, etc.
 

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hermanslotus said:
BS, I have been doing BMW CAA schools since 1992 and I have never once seen a convertible with or without at top in any east coast CCA school. IT IS NOT ALLOWED period.
Hey Mitch. I've seen this. I forgot which chapter I was running with, but there was a gentleman with a yellow S2000 with a rollbar bolted in and then the hardtop on top of that.

Also, Gary posted a reply from the GVC meeting saying that it would be allowed so long as it had a hardtop. :clap:
 

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hermanslotus said:
Yes I am serious if BMW CCA does NOT allow the Elise into their schools I will NOT purchase my Elise. I am 100% serious about this. I am purchasing this car for track days and if I can't take it on the track with my favorite group of friends that I have been doing these events for 12 years than I don;t want this car. After all the track is where this car should feel at home.
I am almost certain that they will allow the Elise at all CCA events as long as the car has the optional hardtop.
This was my sentiment exactly. People were saying, "Why don't you run with ____ club?" I have found that the BMW CCA has consistently run the most organized schools out there. Not to mention that I have a lot of friends who run with the BMW club since I've had an M3 since Dec '98. So it looks like I'll have to get a hardtop, but on the other hand...with all these posts of pictures of actual cars and colors (remember, I ordered the car sight unseen), I'm kinda gravitating towards something other than nightfall blue. Lazer blue is real nice but now that the car is $1000 more and it's no longer offered....ugh. I would lean towards chrome orange, red or yellow. There have been a few times where I was almost pushed off the road because the SUV or pickup driver didn't notice I was there :huh:
 
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