[jdw5155]

Sure, I know we'll need a different intercooler setup than the air to air unit these guys are selling but at least there's someone out there boosting the 2ZZGE well. This at least shows potential for those out here nuts enough to try it.

Jim


Titan Motorsports


Get ready to boost your Toyota Celica GTS to 241 wheel horsepower with XS Engineering's GTS Turbocharger System. Designed by XS Engineering's research and development team, comes the first truly "complete" turbocharger system for the new body Celica GTS. This complete system consists of a ball bearing IHI VF23 Turbocharger, a huge 24"x11"x3" XS Engineering Power IC, durable cast iron manifold, and APEXi Twin chamber blow off valve. If that wasn't enough, the XS Engineering Celica turbocharger system also comes with full stand alone fuel management, consisting of 504cc injectors, 255lph fuel pump, and an XS Engineering tuned APEXi Power FC. With such a complete turbocharger system, there is no question that XS Engineering can help you truly, "Feel feel the power" of your Celica GTS.

Baseline:

Max Power = 167.2hp @ 8200 RPM

Max Torque = 122.0ft lbs. @ 7000 RPM

w/ XS Engineering turbocharger system

Max Power = 250.0hp @ 8200 RPM

Max Tourque = 183.4ft. lbs. @ 6600 RPM



Comes with the following items IHI Ball Bearing Turbo Manifold all the oil lines and fittings to bolt onto the car Apexi Power FC to replace stock computer with preprogrammed base map for the turbo Kit Intercooler Piping Front Mount Intercooler Bigger Injectors Downpipe Instructions

xse celicaturbokitRegular price: $4,999.00 Sale price: $4,899.00

 

[OneFastLotus]

I personally dont think much of PowerFC's. I also dont undertand needing 504cc ( weird number) injectors for well under 300hp.

Anyone can turbo a car. Its making it last that matters. I wont be suprised to see many people jump on the turbo bandwagon to make a quick buck, just beware.

 

[rtking]

Hmmm... a hot turbo in the Elise's small engine bay? And considering the exhaust manifold butts-up against the luggage compartment, I'd think there's a fire just waiting to happen!

Power is nice (and honestly, I'm addicted to it) but I've learned the hard way not to mess with a car too much. Hurting drivability (not just driveline, but chassis balance, etc.) is one quick way to make the car far less appealing.

Bob

 

[Goose]

Well said, Bob.

 

[toyopet]

turbo charging is good but for the same dough you'll be spending, you can do some modifications in your engine that will have as much power and your engine bay will look just as stock as it came from the factory which i'm planning probably 2-3 yrs. after i'll get the car.

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mitsubishi pajero turbo '99
honda civic '96

 

[TimMullen]

Well said, Bob.

Yep. BTDT.

Tim Mullen

 

[Gromit]

turbo charging is good but for the same dough you'll be spending, you can do some modifications in your engine that will have as much power and your engine bay will look just as stock as it came from the factory which i'm planning probably 2-3 yrs. after i'll get the car.

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mitsubishi pajero turbo '99
honda civic '96

But the other mods don't offer the turbo whistle. Turbo's sound so delicious =)

 

[EdHahn]

As for IHI turbochargers...yes, the the ball-bearing turbos spool very quickly, and are great... BUT ... they are typically very difficult to rebuild.

Find out whether XS Engineering has rebuild kits available for the turbo...if not, think very carefully.

I had an IHI RX6B turbocharger on my 3rd gen RX-7, the power delivery was sweet (couldn't really tell that it was a large single vs. a sequential twin down low, but the flat spot during transition was gone). However, when my engine went south, the exhaust fins and bearing was damaged. IHI would not sell replacement bearings (they had an exclusive deal with the kit maker (Apex'i - and Apex'i USA did not sell rebuild kits in the US)), so I ended up having to purchase a new turbo in addition to a new engine.

ed

 

[smoseley]

the exhaust manifold butts-up against the luggage compartment

Luggage compartment? You mean the turbo compartment, right?

 

[OneFastLotus]

I prefer to use Garret units. I dont think ball bearing turbos are any more difficult for a rebuild, likely your problem was with IHI. To be honest Ive always used sleeve type turbos in all my projects. I find that as long as you size the turbo well spooling isnt an issue.

There really is nothing one can do at this point to design a manifold or turbo kit IMHO, I'll need a car sitting in front of me to do that. I dont know that the elise NEEDS any more power, however I am a fan of putting more power to cars I already love. I think the elise could be a worthwhile project but I believe its going to be a lot of trouble and much more complex than some will have you believe.

 

[BrianK]

So the turbo kit is around $5K, and last I heard, the K20 conversion kit is around $6K. I'd rather drop the extra cash for the K20, personally.

 

[gotapex]

So the turbo kit is around $5K, and last I heard, the K20 conversion kit is around $6K. I'd rather drop the extra cash for the K20, personally.

$6k for the K20? That's it? Sounds very low, but that would be awesome news.

 

[Randy Chase]

$6k for the K20? That's it? Sounds very low, but that would be awesome news.

Don't you also need an engine or is that all?

 

[shay2nak]

this is from Road & track website:
SEMA West — The 2004 International Auto Salon


"There is still no supercharger available for the Toyota Celica, unless you are lucky enough to drive this TRD prototype. "

There is hope!

 

[Dan]

this is from Road & track website:
SEMA West — The 2004 International Auto Salon


"There is still no supercharger available for the Toyota Celica, unless you are lucky enough to drive this TRD prototype. "

There is hope!

I believe that's a supercharged Celica GT, not the GT-S.

 

[Tboy911]

The prototype kit is $6800 plus the engine, but I still think it
's a better way to 250hp than a turbo on 11.5-1 compression.

 

[Jon]

Any possibilities for the S2000 engine? Thr 2.2 liter specifically?

 

[Edelman]

Think about how much track time you could buy with $5k.

And how good you would feel every time the guy with the turbo passes you on the straightaway but you are 4 feet off his bumper by turn 3 and working to pass him in the next hairpin.

Same price, much more satisfaction.

Suggestion. Keep the car stock. Go to lots of Club days especially the ones with good instructions. Once you have a few tens of hours behind the car spring for a good week of driving school.

Repeat as often as possible.

 

[DanDotDan]

Turbo heat, and standard hot-rod stuff

If you put a turbo on an Elise, what are you going to do with all the extra heat?

Also, I haven't heard anyone talking about the standard hot-rod stuff: port-polish, valve job, port matching, etc. Is there a reason?

 

[nyoneway]

The prototype kit is $6800 plus the engine, but I still think it
's a better way to 250hp than a turbo on 11.5-1 compression.

And how much is a NEW S2000 engine? Somewhere around 9k+ I bet. Does the kit + engine include labor? For $16k, you get a 30-40whp boost. Not worth it in my opinion. You can easily get the 2ZZ to the same WHP level as the S2000 in NA tune for about 6-7k.

Now you also run into the issue of tranny and gearing, because you are still stuck with the Celica 6sp which is optimized for the 2zz.