[m100 Sean]

Hi guys, I just read all of the threads in the archives about people discovering that the Blaupunkt has a MMC slot and what the difference is, etc.. I have a 128MB SanDisk card that I threw some MP3s on and can't get it to work in my Elise.

I read the manual and I noticed that it said that the card needs to be formated as "FAT16". So I went back, put the card in the external reader I have attached to my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop, and re-formated the MMC- my only options, however, are "FATT" or "FATT32".

Anyone have any idea if "FATT" is the same as "FATT16"?

I ended up formating it as "FATT" and threw some more MP3s on it. Still doesn't work in the stereo in the Elise. It says something like "Reading MMC" and then "MMC Error".

I'm using Windows XP...

 

[Miguel]

Make sure you follow the directory structure as stated on the manual

http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=78460#post78460

Edit

As far as FAT16 that was old MS-Dos and supported by windows up to ME and 2000.

At least the command prompt format command supports FAT16 (They refer it simply as FAT)

In my computer (MMC/SD drive is G: ) it will be

Format G: /FS:FAT /Q

Format /? returns:

Formats a disk for use with Windows XP.

FORMAT volume [/FS:file-system] [/V:label] [/Q] [/A:size] [/C] [/X]
FORMAT volume [/V:label] [/Q] [/F:size]
FORMAT volume [/V:label] [/Q] [/T:tracks /N:sectors]
FORMAT volume [/V:label] [/Q]
FORMAT volume [/Q]

volume Specifies the drive letter (followed by a colon),
mount point, or volume name.
/FS:filesystem Specifies the type of the file system (FAT, FAT32, or NTFS).
/V:label Specifies the volume label.
/Q Performs a quick format.
/C NTFS only: Files created on the new volume will be compressed
by default.
/X Forces the volume to dismount first if necessary. All opened
handles to the volume would no longer be valid.
/A:size Overrides the default allocation unit size. Default settings
are strongly recommended for general use.
NTFS supports 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16K, 32K, 64K.
FAT supports 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16K, 32K, 64K,
(128K, 256K for sector size > 512 bytes).
FAT32 supports 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16K, 32K, 64K,
(128K, 256K for sector size > 512 bytes).

Note that the FAT and FAT32 files systems impose the
following restrictions on the number of clusters on a volume:

FAT: Number of clusters <= 65526
FAT32: 65526 < Number of clusters < 4177918

Format will immediately stop processing if it decides that
the above requirements cannot be met using the specified
cluster size.

NTFS compression is not supported for allocation unit sizes
above 4096.

/F:size Specifies the size of the floppy disk to format (1.44)
/T:tracks Specifies the number of tracks per disk side.
/N:sectors Specifies the number of sectors per track.

 

[m100 Sean]

I don't suppose that does the same thing as when I right-click on the disk's icon under "My Computer" and select "format" (and then as "FATT")?

 

[Miguel]

Don't know, I don't have any blank media to find out.

It might be the same but who knows. You can try and follow the directory structure for MP3's and see if it works.

 

[Dan]

I don't suppose that does the same thing as when I right-click on the disk's icon under "My Computer" and select "format" (and then as "FATT")?

Yes, in Windows XP, FAT (File Allocation Table) is the same as FAT16 if you have FAT32 as another choice.

FAT32 was created to support hard disks larger than 2GB. Flash/Microdrive media larger than 2GB are rare at the moment, so most devices only support FAT16. Usually, you will only see FAT32 support on high-end digital cameras and DSLRs.

 

[Miguel]

I just noticed that he also had a double T on the fat32, that is what it was throwing me off.

Yes, Fat = Fat16

I didn't have any floppies or memory sticks and the only options I could see where on the hard drive (NTFS and FAT32).

And no, I didn't format the drive

 

[zvezdah1]

I tell ya guys, it's just as easy to rip mp3 cds which is what I'm doing right now, gets 6 or so on one cd, plenty of music
Chris

 

[Miguel]

Chris, does the CD skips when you go over a pot hole or at the begining and end of a bridge if the transition is big enougth?

I notice that on cars with a stiff suspension, MMC is solid state so nothing mechanical to skip, plus he just wants to use an existing MMC card he has lying around.

 

[zvezdah1]

Miguel,
I've had absolutely no instance of skipping, something I was originally thought might be a problem
Chris

 

[mikester]

"I promise not to sound too much like a Lotus cheerleader from now on"

Aw go ahead Chris, we know you want to !

 

[Randy Chase]

You can get these in Ardent Red!

 

[zvezdah1]

:clap:

 

[Ryno]

This is a little bit older thread so I hope someone that knows is listening. I can’t get any music to play from my card that is labeled as a Fat file system. I don't get any errors it just says reading and never changes. For those that say cd's are easier are correct but I do like the idea of having a 2 disk changer plus my ipax uses the same card. Any ideas?

 

[Miguel]

I just bought a 1GB SanDisk at Fry's for $80 and so far I've only stored 30 songs, I think it will hold up to 900 songs.

On your problem make sure the mp3 songs you are adding are not copy protected I think it won't play them.

What I did is extract songs from the original CD's and convert them to mp3, I've heard that some mp3's downloaded via Itunes and similar servers might be copy protected somehow.

I'll still use the CD, but this way I can keep my favorite tunes all the time in the car.

here is a picture of the stick:

 

[Nomad]

I'm impressed you're spending the time to get the MP3 working. I can't here any music well enough to bother. Maybe my hearing just ain't what it used to be.
Nomad
:shrug:

 

[Miguel]

It's been raining here, so my soft top is on all the time and I can hear the music just fine.

As winter approaches, I probably will install the hardtop and then I bet I could hear the music even better.

After all you can't be on the high cams all the time on the street

 

[Dan]

This is a little bit older thread so I hope someone that knows is listening. I can’t get any music to play from my card that is labeled as a Fat file system. I don't get any errors it just says reading and never changes. For those that say cd's are easier are correct but I do like the idea of having a 2 disk changer plus my ipax uses the same card. Any ideas?

Like I've posted in a different thread, try making an MP3 CD with the same files to see if you can get MP3 files to play at all. If you can't get a CD to work, then there maybe something wrong with your MP3s.

 

[Miguel]

Well, I got tired of producing the CD's by hand it involved extracting to wave files then using CoolEdit2000 to convert them to mp3's and adding the artist, title, album name, track #, etc for each song.

So I got a plug-in from windows media player that allows to extract files to mp3 format with all the information retrieved from databases around the world, It even found a CD from Celtas Cortos (Spanish rock-celtic music) and created the directory structure and everything, it will even place the album cover but you can delete those files and it allows you to control quality versus compression, not too bad for $10.

Since I'm a sucker for deals I got the DVD plug-ing as well both for $19, it allows you to play DVD's in windows media player using the intervideo controls and decoders.

http://www.intervideo.com/products/custom/ms/windowsxp/media_pack.jsp

There are other plugins alike, the microsoft support site with links to all three of them are at:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/9Series/GettingStarted//Personalization/Plugins.asp

Once installed, on the media player change the options under Tools/Options/Copy Music and change the Format to Intervideo MP3 under copy settings, you can also set the compression vs Quality in there as well as the directory where it will place the album.

After that, with a music CD on, go to File/Copy/Copy From Audio CD/CD Drive

wait for the program to find all the information from the various databases and let it work.

You can also Copy to Audio CD, pretty much will allow you to take any supported audio file and convert them to Audio CD format. No use for that for our CD player since you can take the mp3 albums and burd a CD directly since we have mp3 support.

Sorry if the post is lengthy and maybe a bit obscure. But I thought it will help many

 

[Dan]

So I got a plug-in from windows media player that allows to extract files to mp3 format with all the information retrieved from databases around the world, It even found a CD from Celtas Cortos (Spanish rock-celtic music) and created the directory structure and everything, it will even place the album cover but you can delete those files and it allows you to control quality versus compression, not too bad for $10.

FYI, ripping to MP3s has been added to Windows Media Player in the new version 10. 128-320kbps is supported. It's a free download.

 

[Miguel]

Oh well

I saw the update being ready and decided not to get it, that will teach me.