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Just a heads up for V1 owners.......

I had always assumed the self test on my V1 indicated it was functional. Last week I was pulled over at 4:30AM (no traffic, small town GA), fortunately for only 12 MPH over (67 in a 55). I was surprised because my V1 (1.8) had NEVER gone off. The officer was very polite and asked me why I looked puzzled when he came to the car to chat. I told him my radar detector had never gone off after he told me had used radar and asked if I wanted him to check the calibration. When he presented my ticket he said he had left his radar on so that I could check my RD out- still not a peep. He was nice enough to write it as a city violation so no DMVR updates or insurance increases, but to say I was :mad: would be an understatement.

I sent it back in last week for upgrade/repair, my letter to Valentine has had no response as of yet. I called and talked to a tech today and the older V1 self test does NOT indicate the unit is 100% functional as it uses older analog technology, he said the upgrade with newer digital technology would be better (not mentioned on the website). He also said that no one out there has anything better as far as self-tests go.

So just a warning, if your V1 powers up and goes through the self-test don't assume anything about it's functionality- it may or may not work. I love my V1s because of the arrows, but my older Passport 8500x50 has never let me down. I will probably give the V1s one last chance but will definitely be less confident of their effectiveness until they have regained my trust.......
 

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That's a bummer! - How old was this unit? I assume it was no longer giving false alarms while driving around? (motion sensors?)
 

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That's the thing, it had gone off the night before just like it always does at known falsing points and even at a few valid radar points. I live in a rural area and work from home other than airport travel, so when the car cranked up the next day and the V1 turned on and self-tested as usual everything appeared to be fine.

I have talked with the head tech and sales rep today and may get to speak with Mike Valentine before it's all over, I love my V1 but need something that works all the time ;)
My V1 is a 1.8 non-POP that is about 4 years old. I asked in my letter if their might be a recommended service interval so I could be confident that my unit was working, I have found at least one other similar problem this week on a BMW forum. And my older Passport 8500 has worked fine while my V1 has been out for service (but I miss the arrows and front mounted controls).

Thanks for sharing glb, I was averaging 1-2 tickets a year but now am down to about 1 every 1.5 years ;) I wish we had licensing requirements like Germany that would keep non-drivers on public transportation and allow higher speed limits (of course that would cut a major profit center for local/county/state government).
 

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Mine did the same about a month ago. Drove by one of those speed limit signs on a white trailer....and nothing.

Sent it back. they fixed it for free. I had had it upgraded about 2 years ago.

Seems to be working now.

I also have 4 Passports for my other cars. Never gave the startup test any thought till now.
 

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Plug your serial number in here; it'll tell you if any upgrades are available for your unit.

https://store.valentine1.com/upgrades/

One thing i have reiterated to all of the people I have spoken with at Valentine today is that the update screen for current v1.8 owners only speaks to the addition of POP radar, but should also mention the move from analog to digital circuitry and a higher degree of accuracy during the self-test at power on.

The last person I spoke with assured me that this is not common but other than glb's story I have read about one other person with the same issue in the past month. I have two V1s, the second one dead after a week (I guess at least mine has lasted for 4 years). I'll probably give them another shot until my next failure........3 strikes rule.
 

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...i used to have a little cobra i received as a graduation gift about twenty years ago, and got rid of it within a year...for myself, personally, a detector i cannot depend upon to be 100% reliable is worse than none at all, as it leaves me constantly on edge, apprehensive, second-guessing the machine and myself both, unable to enjoy the drive...

...i actually did better driving by instinct alone, letting my intuition interpret subtle perceptions, than with a detector - faster on average with less tickets and less stress to boot...

:shrug:
 

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...i used to have a little cobra i received as a graduation gift about twenty years ago, and got rid of it within a year...for myself, personally, a detector i cannot depend upon to be 100% reliable is worse than none at all, as it leaves me constantly on edge, apprehensive, second-guessing the machine and myself both, unable to enjoy the drive...

...i actually did better driving by instinct alone, letting my intuition interpret subtle perceptions, than with a detector - faster on average with less tickets and less stress to boot...

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+1
Detectors are stressful. Drive where you can know you can.
 

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If only the passport 9500 had the easy to mount remote display like the V1.
 

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Anyone have trouble with sunlight causing laser falses? I had to turn off laser detection on my V1. On my morning commute, the rising sun would cause an alarm for most of the ride. Then, on my evening commute, the setting sun would cause an alarm for most of the ride. Very irritating :mad: Called Valentine, they say it's normal. Go figure...
 

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Anyone have trouble with sunlight causing laser falses? I had to turn off laser detection on my V1. On my morning commute, the rising sun would cause an alarm for most of the ride. Then, on my evening commute, the setting sun would cause an alarm for most of the ride. Very irritating :mad: Called Valentine, they say it's normal. Go figure...
Happens to me every single day on the way home - going up a hill the silly bugger just screams and screams... it actually would be an excellent place for a cop to ACTUALLY sit with a laser ;)
 

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Happens to me every single day on the way home - going up a hill the silly bugger just screams and screams... it actually would be an excellent place for a cop to ACTUALLY sit with a laser ;)
I bet all that that reflected light would serve to jam his laser.


My V1 also quit, costing me a ticket. They made me pay for my repair (which is actually a replacement.):mad:

New unit works great though!:eek:
 

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I can't believe it. I've posted a few times that i wasn't blown away by my V1 and preferred the Passport, thought it was better, and gave my reasons- and came under attack for it.
I guess I should look into having mine checked out. It does go off, a LOT. And I get tons of falses and it's kind of error thing where it alerts, lights up everything, then shows a "J" and goes back to normal. The passport never false lasered on me but the V1 does all the time. I've been told certain SUV LED tailights will set it off, but it doesn't seem consistent with that. I did used to have a neon "Open" sign that would consistently set it off though when I faced it entering a parking lot.

It's a bummer to see on one small forum so many people that have a failed unit and cost them a ticket. :(

Oh yeah, someone said V1. Isn't it time rAdArKinG shows up? He seems to have some kind of auto alert function so he can advertise V1 in the thread whenever the name comes up.
 

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The "J" is new with the latest software revisions and indicates Junk Signal........kind of confused me when we bought a new V1 for my wife's car earlier this year since the one I have had for four years didn't do this.
 

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did he possibly use laser?
No KA band radar.....but the V1 detects laser too and the officer was parked right behind me with his radar on specifically so I could check the V1 function. We were only about 30 miles from home on our way to SC so I turned around to get a working radar detector and drove by some known falsing points with nada, completely dead.

Hopefully the repaired/upgraded unit will be better at self testing with the newer digital components, we'll see. I guess it has lasted 4 years, maybe I'll just make it routine to send in every two years and get checked out.
 

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This thread is very timely for me. I was going to order the V1 in anticipation of Mr. C's bracket coming in soon.

However would I be better off getting the Escort 9500ix? My only concern with this unit is how would I see the display since I don't think you can do a remote display mount like you can on the V1?
 

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I can't believe it. I've posted a few times that i wasn't blown away by my V1 and preferred the Passport, thought it was better, and gave my reasons- and came under attack for it.
I guess I should look into having mine checked out. It does go off, a LOT. And I get tons of falses and it's kind of error thing where it alerts, lights up everything, then shows a "J" and goes back to normal. The passport never false lasered on me but the V1 does all the time. I've been told certain SUV LED tailights will set it off, but it doesn't seem consistent with that. I did used to have a neon "Open" sign that would consistently set it off though when I faced it entering a parking lot.

It's a bummer to see on one small forum so many people that have a failed unit and cost them a ticket. :(

Oh yeah, someone said V1. Isn't it time rAdArKinG shows up? He seems to have some kind of auto alert function so he can advertise V1 in the thread whenever the name comes up.

I have extensive exprience with both passport and V1. I have both. V1 in my elise and Passports in the rest of my cars.

They are close. It is only my experience and "arrrows" training that allows me to use the Passport effective. I can "read" the signals most of th time.
The V1 does pick up weaker signals. I have been in my Elisea with the V1 and my son in his Miata with the Passport right behind...and my V1 picks up the signal a little quicker...somethimes real quicker.

I do get more false positives with the V1...but that does not bother me. I would rather hear them. There have been sometimes when the passport misses it all together and the V1 picks it up. I do like the way the Passport interfaces with my ZR3 Laser shifter.

all in all I think the V1 is better, but only by a small margin.

Both my V1 and my passports have left me high and dry without protection at different times.

Edit....yes..some of the GM rear brake lights set off the V1. No question. We have tested it. And Lexus cars now have parking or braking sensors that are setting the V1 off as well. Next time you get a false and you dont see any doors or GM brake lights...look around. I bet you will see a Lexus.
 
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