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Noob question: why do so many lotus owners have fire extinguishers mounted in their cars? Are these care more prone to bursting into flames than others??? :shrug:

Don't get me wrong... I think they look sweet! I was just wondering if there was a specific reason they are so prevalent in these cars.
 

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Good question, and it reminds me... I recently saw a picture here of a Lotus with a chrome one with a Lotus sticker on it, very nice, hopefully someone will remember the car for me, as it's exactly what I'm looking for!
 

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It is a good piece of safety equipment to have on a tracked car. On a street driven car in certainly can’t hurt but is probably mostly an affectation. I am sure soon someone will post the picture of an Elise burnt to the ground at a track (I think in CA).
 

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No not really known for bursting into flames.

However all cars (regardless of the make) can get things like an oil leak. The problem with the elise is that aliminium + fibreglass + fire = very bad. Have seen pictures of a 340R that got fire due to overheated cat converter and by the time the call to the emergency services was made there wasn't much left other than the roll bar.

Good to have and never use it than to need it and not have it.
 

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Are these care more prone to bursting into flames than others??? :shrug:
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The only colors that have cases of spontaneous combustion are ( every other color BUT Chrome Orange ) rotfl
 

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I was just wondering if there was a specific reason they are so prevalent in these cars.
Because so many of them are tracked. A tracked car gets much hotter than a highway driven car. A tracked car also has a much better chance of ending up in the grass next to a track than a highway driven car.

Hot car in grass quite often ends up creating a fire. Most of the time that fire doesn't spread to the car, but in the rare case that it does, it might actually help to have a fire extinguisher in the car.

Rich "I don't have a fire extinguisher in my car. S
 

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I threw a rod once, not pretty. Not in the Elise.

Oil everywhere, hit the headers a small fire ensued. If I did not have a small Halon fire extinguisher in the car my next option would have been to take my shirt off and slap at the flames with it.

After that experience I was glad I had a fire extinguisher in the car.


I rather have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
 

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I've carried one in every car I've ever owned since my 1st 1984 Fiero.
They didn't call that car the "Fiero Flambe" for just nothin' ya know, and I am personal living anecdotal testament to that! :eek:

Ever since that car though (and the last time I ever drove it in 1989) I have yet to use an extinguisher in anger since, towards my own vehicle. Did stop once on the highway, and helped save someone ELSES car though, that had a fairly decent electrical fire going (open flames leaping out from under the hood as it was dodging for the shoulder) a few years back as a result.

As someone else mentioned, they are required for several certain track events - and that is probably the single largest reason they are so prevalent in our cars as a result of, is all.

Besides, they just look cool where and how they mount in our cars too. I once had someone ask me at one of these mega-mall car drive-in "shows" whether or not mine was my Nitrous bottle. rotfl
 

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And don't forget--fiberglass bodies burn very hot and very fast :eek: especially compared to steel bodied cars. I carry a 10 pounder in my Elan because anything less is simply not going to cut it in a real fire.
 

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To be honest anything other than a plumbed in engine bay and passenger compartment is at best a token. I would stongly advise people think before using the small handheld units. It's only a car after all.
 

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To be honest anything other than a plumbed in engine bay and passenger compartment is at best a token. I would stongly advise people think before using the small handheld units. It's only a car after all.
exactly!!!
some (else)who gets it.

if my car is burning, i would take the time, if i had it and think to do it, to hit a button, or pull a lever while i am exiting the car on my plumbed system.

Thats about it for me, i only really care about my body, the car is replacable, but fire is a bitch, and doesnt discriminate in what it is going to burn.

I think the handheld extingusiher is bling, but i wouldnt count on it it do the job, unless someone else wanted to operate it; i will be away from my car waiting for the corner workers to come and do thier thing.
if your Lotus is so precious that you cannot afford to have it burn to the ground, and to just be thankful that you are unharmed, then you should be using something else on the track.
if your car burns while using it on the street, i still say keep away from the car, and let your insurance company do what you pay them for, which is replace your car.

I did have a racecar with a handheld extinguisher in it. It passed SCCA tech because of it, but it was only a placebo to me (since i really never planned on unlatching it, and using it), and all my cars since have the plumbed system in it, which is really in place to protect me(while i am getting the hell out of there), not so much my car.

if my car was buring before my eyes, i might react differently in the "heat of the moment", but I dont really make plans on being a firefighter when i go to the races. i make plans on doing whatever it takes to come home the way i showed up at the track, which is unburned and unscarred for life.

but your handheld extiguishers do look cool!!!!
 

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For those of you who have handheld extinguishers mounted, is there a preference between mounting it in front of the passenger seat vs. the drivers? Either way it doesn't really take up any legroom and while it clutters up the drivers side in some instances it could be easier to reach vs bending forward and to the side to get is from the passenger side.

Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks.
 

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One of my favorite pictures ever.

 

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Some reg's state it's got to be reachable from the drivers position although infront of the pax seat is a favourite.
In front of the drivers seat inhibits entry (and so also a quick exit).

I've had units mounted in various places - Between the seats or behind the drivers seat on the bulkhead were ok. You can get a unit that is slim enough to fit in the shelf infront of the pax.
 

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To be honest anything other than a plumbed in engine bay and passenger compartment is at best a token. I would stongly advise people think before using the small handheld units. It's only a car after all.
Disagree. A lot of people think of fire exactly as shown in the pic in this thread---which is, of course un-fightable, with a hand held ext, and prob even a full cct system. Fires generally start small before growing into full on inferno.

Suppose it's the small, sparking/arcing variety. Do you REALLY want to write off a multi-thousand dollar asset for lack of a $20 fire extinguisher? (I'm not recommending the dry powder ABC, by the way --- the after effects can be worse than a (small) fire). I have two halon bottles in my car, and one in every room in my house.
You're not going to extinguish an inferno---especially an accellerant driven one with a handheld. ...but suppose there's a small incident in the pass compartment---say an airborne cig butt tossed by some ignoramus in front of you and you don't notice it stick into the pass seat and starts it smoking....... Do you:
a) Pat it out with your hands
b) smother it with your $400 leather jacket
c) abandon ship
d) Douse it with a halon or halatron blast?

It's very cheap insurance.
You don't have to use it.
And it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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e) call the insurance company or chuck a bottle of expensive tap water over it, which most elise owners seem to carry ;)

i'd rather have a melting puddle on the ground than a partially burnt out car covered in fire extinguisher goop, by the time you've gotten out, then pulled out the shiny immaculate looking fireextinguisher in the fancy bracket thats usually in akward spot in the passenger footwell, if the passenger has gotten out too, and you remembered to have the extinguisher checked regularly, then can get to wherever the fire is quickly which might meant opening the trunk, or getting into the diffuser area, and put it out properly while staying out of danger, than yeah.

if you're working on the car in a garage then the question is should i equip my garage with fire extinguishers, yes indeedly.
 

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For those of you who have handheld extinguishers mounted, is there a preference between mounting it in front of the passenger seat vs. the drivers? Either way it doesn't really take up any legroom and while it clutters up the drivers side in some instances it could be easier to reach vs bending forward and to the side to get is from the passenger side.

Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks.
The passenger's seat is not adjustable fore and aft, whereas the driver's side is.
 
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