[raggedy1]

gift?!

gift?
like Lotus has assembled so many extra cars that they can gift them to their dealers? this isn't GM were talking about! Every Elise currently being made is already spoken for!
sounds like another example of a shady dealer making an extra dollar(s) on a hot product at the expense of their obligation to their deposit holders.:no:

 

[raggedy1]

some may forgive this as "the american way," but i see this as sheer GREED

dealers were more than happy to take our deposits (2K for me) and earn interest on that money for however long the deposit had been taken, and now they (some) see an opportunity to make MO' MONEY on a hot product.

this stinks.

this is NOT the american way

GREED only breeds contempt

 

[raggedy1]

racer...

As one of the "suckers" on the list at Overseas, I don't belive I have been bumped down. The position I get told has not varied more than one position from I am currently on the list (#7 customer car, #8 including the demo). Greg

I appreciate your trust in your dealer. You believe that you'll have the 7th customer car delivered.

While that may be true, I think the issue is that we feel the dealer may be taking orders for himself and holding off on placing customer orders. So while you are the 7th customer car, the dealer is taking a few from the top for himself before placing the customer orders. He effectively may be pushing you down to car number 10 or so even though you are still the 7th customer car.........

does that make sense?

 

[raggedy1]

Re: Re: racer...

Now if an Aubergine car shows up at my dealer (possibly any dealer) I will get suspicious (sp?). I know my dealer has no other Aubergine cars on order. If I had a Storm Ti/Red car on order(1-30) from Overseas, I would be calling them. Ok I still call them, just not about that car I did see the sticker, it was an Overseas Car, not wholesaled from an other dealer.

It could be a car from a depositor who dropped.

Greg [/B]

again, you're missing my point. you are assuming that overseas is currently being suspected of selling off customer ordered cars. my point is that they (overseas) has placed ordered for themselves in whatever color/options they chose.

so the ST car they are selling is not assumed to be a customer ordered car, but rather a car that they had ordered for themselves (in front of the waiting list).

this practice would have been fine if the dealer had stated to the depositors up front that they would be ordering X number of cars for themselves before placing customer orders....

we are only assuming and suspecting here....

 

[raggedy1]

Re: Re: Re: Re: racer...

I guess one point I am trying to make is that it may not be "in front of the waiting list" but as part of the waiting list. [/B]

and that would be fine since as you had stated, one's place in line would not be affected.

however, if the dealer had taken customer orders/deposits with the understanding/assumption that the customer would be getting the first 8 cars (in your scenario), then we would have a problem (with the dealer basically "cutting" the line)