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:clap:CHINA:clap: there the only ones who have enough money to outright buy a car company that makes no money and hope for the best. which will pay off after they buy it, the brand will live on, then after china engineers them for a few years Lotus will die for good.


See quality for the most part with lotus is ok, I mean the things work great but just some of the little details aren't up to par with super huge car companies but those things aren't important.

They still stuck to their roots and it worked.

Now that CHINA bought lotus their gonna start looking like Hundiya or whatever. and that red one with the sick diamond plate splitter.

not only that, CHINA know how to do something but they have NO CLUE why their doing it, other than their copying someone else's work.


 

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I wonder what the cost would be to buy Lotus? (no, I can't afford to buy Lotus) I would tend to think Lotus is small enough to be picked up by many large companies without impacting that companies bottom line too much. Use Lotus as a write off for awhile and start building it back up. Everything is there, just need some Cash, Vision, and management.
 

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Steve,
If you think Lotus is such a doomed company, why did you buy an Evora? Or did you? These new threads are becoming wearisome.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/who-do-you-think-will-buy-lotus-115808/

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/how-bad-lotus-marketing-115782/

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/getting-evora-parts-115557/

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f3/danny-bahar-suspended-115571/
(This one got combined with an existing thread, since you saw fit to start an new one on the same topic.)

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/lotus-going-bankrupt-115558/
 

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If every Lotus owner in the USA sold their car, and applied it towards the company debt, we would hardly make a dent in it. The deep pockets won't be needed to buy the company, but rather, the real capital will be required to put it back in the black. Anyone looking to purchase the company will come to the same realization.
 

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Steve,
If you think Lotus is such a doomed company, why did you buy an Evora? Or did you? These new threads are becoming wearisome.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/who-do-you-think-will-buy-lotus-115808/

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/how-bad-lotus-marketing-115782/

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/getting-evora-parts-115557/

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f3/danny-bahar-suspended-115571/
(This one got combined with an existing thread, since you saw fit to start an new one on the same topic.)

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/lotus-going-bankrupt-115558/
THANK YOU! I MAY BE ONE OF THE SARCASTIC ONES ON THIS FORUM, BUT FOR A CHANGE YOU SAID IT FOR ME! THIS GUY HAS QUICKLY BECOME A TROLL!!:thwack:
 

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We all should pitch in and buy the darn company.
haha then we'll all be like, "taste great, less filling, taste great, less filling!" bla bla.

Entertaining this silly idea, I would love to chip in if everybody thought like me :) Unfortunately we've got so much disagreement in this community as it is, Lotus would be in just as bad shape if not worse shape than it is today.

From an investor perspective, continuing the current plan in place is too risky at this time. I'd prefer Lotus go the route similar to Porsche. You know--put out some cars that appeal to a greater market segment as the primary means for generating revenue. Secondly, Lotus needs to continue focusing on improving overall quality. Not just fix crap that existing customers like myself complain about. Actually assign a VP to a role as quality czar, whose sole purpose is to revamp quality control processes. Sell cars that won't fail in the first place. Yes it's possible, it's called quality assurance. I know because it's what I do for a living. Come up with every possible way break the sh*t out of something and fix it so it doesn't happen with a paying customer.

The fact that they have a 3/yr 36k/mile warranty on 90k car tells exactly what Lotus thinks about the reliability of their cars. Is it any wonder why these cars don't sell well? The only people buying these cars are uber Lotus fans. Everyone else will get Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, for the better warranty and service. With Lotus you gotta pay out of your own pocket for a rental while something is fixed under warranty. I paid $700 for car rentals while Lotus replaced my clutch under warranty. While I am appreciative they finally offered me a car to drive halfway through the repair, when I look at it, I actually end up owing Lotus for fixing their mistake on a car which I paid 90K for. It's just one of those things people remember when buying their next car.
 

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Steve,
If you think Lotus is such a doomed company, why did you buy an Evora? Or did you? These new threads are becoming wearisome.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/who-do-you-think-will-buy-lotus-115808/

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/how-bad-lotus-marketing-115782/

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/getting-evora-parts-115557/

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f3/danny-bahar-suspended-115571/
(This one got combined with an existing thread, since you saw fit to start an new one on the same topic.)

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f170/lotus-going-bankrupt-115558/
Eh, sounds to me like he bought an Evora without doing much research into the company. He probably only became interested after some dealer talked him into the car, then he went home and now he's just worry/worry/worry possibly fueled by a bit of regret. Now he comes here with his negativity/worry in search of our answers to his questions to give him reassurance, relief, and a newly found over-all satisfaction in his purchase to put out the fire of worry that has been caused by his research(after buying the car). Of course this leads me to believe that he is certainly a "the sky is falling" type of person, only posting threads with a strong tone of underlying negativity in the hopes that our answers will douse the flames of worry that he's been inflicted with. Of course, had he done proper research beforehand, he would not have these questions post-purchase. I sincerely hope he can find some positive aspects to post about, and that this new-found positive tone will reflect in his future posts, instead of questions that scream troll. Certainly this would save the position of any future positive reputation he hopes to have on this forum. Let us not scream troll and assume the best, before we assume the worst. Good day.
 

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Doubt he even owns a 2011 as no pics, no details etc. I smell TROLL and maybe it works for CATERHAM!

I'll be away a few days driving the Elise in downpours at NHMS tomorrow. Gluts need a good workout anyway. It'll keep the winter driving skills sharp.
 

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Doubt he even owns a 2011 as no pics, no details etc. I smell TROLL and maybe it works for CATERHAM!
+1--very tiresome and pretty obviously no positive contributions.
Can the Mods do anything to shut it down?
 

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Hi Ret
On the contrary I love my Evora and am looking to buy an Elise

You completely misinterpret my questions...

I'm very interested in Lotus the company and it's future

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Hi Jl

Not sure who chattem is but I do not work for them

I think lotus is an amazing machine.. Looking for another

Ignoring the realities about the company who makes them hardly qualifies for trooldom
 
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