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I saw this lotus in the lotus international magazine. i have never seen it before. Am i just stupid and everyone has seen it?
Why have I never seen this Lotus?
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I will go with answer B :wave:
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well that makes sense. so is it one that isnt approved to be driven in the us?
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Yes. A good car, different motor. Quite nice.
But not coming to the USA.
I have had the pleasure of being in them in England including a nice blat about the countryside with a Lotus product engineer.
But not coming to the USA.
I have had the pleasure of being in them in England including a nice blat about the countryside with a Lotus product engineer.
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...i expect the europa to be phased out now that the evora is available - it was never well-received by the market, although this race-prepped europa is quite beguiling, i think...
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Being serious it’s not in the US, but its been in a few magazines and a few pics have been here in LT.
The car didn’t sell to well in Europe and that also doesn't help it’s popularity much.
The car didn’t sell to well in Europe and that also doesn't help it’s popularity much.
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i like the look but the article said 5.5 (maybe 5.7) for 0-60 and top speed of 14_?
well thank you for the info. sorry to make a new thread
well thank you for the info. sorry to make a new thread
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No worries about a new thread. It has good torque and with some mods is pretty fast. I met a guy in the UK who was quite proud of his and the power he had with it.
It is more targeted to the cruiser market, and as noted, the Evora really takes that over.
And yes, the new Dodge is based on this, so we may see it here as an electric. If so, I might be tempted. I think the car in person is very good looking.
It is more targeted to the cruiser market, and as noted, the Evora really takes that over.
And yes, the new Dodge is based on this, so we may see it here as an electric. If so, I might be tempted. I think the car in person is very good looking.
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i really like the looks of the car. well at least from the outside.
Randy,
how do you think the evora compares?
I like the look of this one better than the evora, but performace and overall which do you like?
Randy,
how do you think the evora compares?
I like the look of this one better than the evora, but performace and overall which do you like?
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...the europa is a compromise vehicle - all the raw performance of the 111 platform softened to serve as a GT car, and all the opulent smoothness of a GT car shoehorned into a harsh 111 chassis...it's certainly rare, although many find its styling banal by contemporary lotus standards, a touch too much like any-other-sports-coupe...
...the evora, conversely, was designed from the ground up as a GT car, and it really shows when you experience one in person...i don't doubt that the europa is a unique ownership experience, but i also don't think it's capable of coming across as elegantly-composed as the evora's comprehensive design solution...certainly the evora will outperform the europa, and it will also outfunction the europa at both cars' intended role - about the only way the europa comes out on top is as a scarce specimen: a factory elise made posh...
...the evora, conversely, was designed from the ground up as a GT car, and it really shows when you experience one in person...i don't doubt that the europa is a unique ownership experience, but i also don't think it's capable of coming across as elegantly-composed as the evora's comprehensive design solution...certainly the evora will outperform the europa, and it will also outfunction the europa at both cars' intended role - about the only way the europa comes out on top is as a scarce specimen: a factory elise made posh...
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I like the look of the Europa (particularly the SE variant in white) - this thread - http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f120/stunning-lotus-europa-s-photo-shoot-74952/ - has some great photos of one in Australia 
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A Dodge-badged Europa (same as the OP's picture) was displayed at the LA auto show last year & also appeared at Cars &
Coffee around that time. I have a 1:18 die cast model
Coffee around that time. I have a 1:18 die cast model
I like the look of the Europa (particularly the SE variant in white) - this thread - http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f120/stunning-lotus-europa-s-photo-shoot-74952/ - has some great photos of one in Australia
thats my car
lotus only ever intended to produce 500 of these
I guess if it sold really well they might have changed their mind on that
The issue with it for most people is the price, I can only compare australian prices but the ratio should be the same wherever
A base model elise costs $70k. A Europa S (which was the only model originally) costs $110k
thats a lot more to pay, might as well get an elise
I bought mine secondhand, it was the press demonstrator for Australia
As for the softness/cruiser bit, lotus tried to push that message and failed. The cabins the same, sure it has some extra leather, better seats as standard but the leather is an afterthought and the size of everything is the same, mine still has the plastic uncovered dashboard
The chassis, suspension and brakes are the same as an elise
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Huh?
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The thread asked "why have I not seen this Lotus". The OP lists home as Idaho. I cant imagine too many people in Idaho talking about the non- US Europa. There's nothing potato-ie about it. Okay my humor is a little off today. no offense OP. question...
I know most people believe they haven't even seen an Elise in the US. I work with guys that claim the same yet I have been with them as they drive by Lotuses all the time and they don't notice. If you're not interested or looking for the cars or the information yes you won't know about it.
I know most people believe they haven't even seen an Elise in the US. I work with guys that claim the same yet I have been with them as they drive by Lotuses all the time and they don't notice. If you're not interested or looking for the cars or the information yes you won't know about it.
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