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This pictures shows a blue glow to the lights. Does this mean that the Fed Elise will come with Xenon lights? Anyone go to the auto show and see this? Can anyone explain the glow? Or is it the flash on the camera that caused this???
 

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My guess, it's a reflection. Either from the flash or other lighting. Notice the other headlight or parking ligths aren't on. HID did make the list as dealer installed options.
 

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HID Is a filimentless light. It uses a "High intensity discharge" (basically an arc) to provide the light. This light is around 6500k in color, which is close to natural sunlight and makes it very easy to see. Main issue with it is a warmup cycle which makes it impossible to use as a high beam without some mechanism of a light filter/block that can move ala the 911 and some other luxury car manufacturers.

Xenon is unfortunately indicative of either a filiment based or true HID style light as it can be found in either. While a "xenon" incandescent is a bit more blue than a normal bulb, it is NOT a true hid, and its color spectrum is rather poor in my opinion.

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The scan of the dealer installed options indicates "High Intensity" lights, it does not say anything about HID lights. I would expect it to be "brighter" bulbs. Adding on HID lights would be a more complex option and probably not one done at the dealer level...

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TimMullen said:
The scan of the dealer installed options indicates "High Intensity" lights, it does not say anything about HID lights. I would expect it to be "brighter" bulbs. Adding on HID lights would be a more complex option and probably not one done at the dealer level...

Tim Mullen
It also doesn't say anything about Xenons... So hope is not yet dead:rolleyes:
 

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scot said:
HID Is a filimentless light. It uses a "High intensity discharge" (basically an arc) to provide the light. This light is around 6500k in color, which is close to natural sunlight and makes it very easy to see. Main issue with it is a warmup cycle which makes it impossible to use as a high beam without some mechanism of a light filter/block that can move ala the 911 and some other luxury car manufacturers.

Xenon is unfortunately indicative of either a filiment based or true HID style light as it can be found in either. While a "xenon" incandescent is a bit more blue than a normal bulb, it is NOT a true hid, and its color spectrum is rather poor in my opinion.

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the gas in HID headlights is Xe. not to be confused with halogen filled bulbs that are filament type bulbs. (at least the last time i used a discharge lamp it was a xenon lamp)
 

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I have Xenon that are active or turn slightly into corners on my 2004 Mercedes E500. they are the BEST headlights I have ever seen. They are like daylight at night and light up highway signs for miles ahead. The reflection of some signs are almost too bright to see sometimes. Deer and racoon eyes are downright scary they are so bright! But I'm expecting to drive UNDER the deer. LMAO
 

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creven I wouldnt recommend driving under animals. They usually are pissing themselves:D
:D That's probably actually true and therefore even more Halarious!
 

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Ah... the HIDs... I'm familiar with them... I can see the beam three hills away at night. And get blinded by the glare when we pass. Grrr. I may have to get me some...;)

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<img src=http://www.twauto.com.hk/images/newproduct/LotusElise_HIDSystem_01.jpg>


This Elise has installed aftermarket HID. Seems like the headlight must be disassemble and have to figure out where to hide the HID ballasts.
 

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My understanding is that Zenon is the igniter in HID lights. Pure HID takes minutes to come on, remember the overhead lights in the gym that tooks minutes to come on? Well Zenon allows quick startup of the HID lights and serves no other purpose. Oh, well it's what I have read and it sounds good.
 

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Will we be able to get the 8000K phillips conversion kit to fit in the elise? It is the same system used in caddies right now (I know because I checked the system on my aunts Escalade).

Since the elise has seperate bulbs for high and low beams, this system would work great. Plus they are only about $400 and all you have to do is replace the bulb and find a place for the ballasts.

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The problem I have with HIDs is that they are just too damned bright, even if they are adjusted properly. Scattered light from an HID-equipped car going over a bump can be very piercing and painful if your eyes have acclimated to normal night conditions. If your car is low to the ground, you will loathe the latest crop of SUVs with these lights. Personally I think they are very selfish, solipsistic, and inconsiderate and I wish they would be banned from the roads. If you can't see in the dark, use your high beams or try to avoid driving after sunset.
 

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I know that 'ballast' is used as an electrical term here, but think about other definitions for that word, and you'll realize one other thing this supposed 'upgrade' is giving you - extra weight! Does anyone know what HID ballasts typically weigh? I'd be interested in seeing that number compared to the weight of some small auxilliary driving lights.
 
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