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Engine code 121 and 133

125 views 9 replies 2 participants last post by  Catsailr27  
#1 ·
Hey Guys, great to have my car back after a very extensive refresh and maintenance, including a new supercharger - But....

I pulled these codes, though one might be due to replacement of the top TPS 2 days ago.

The shop was chasing a sporadic idle that randomly occurred after putting the entire car back together.

It somewhat improved after the new TPS was plugged in, but didn't completely cure it.

These codes weren't visible when the shop had my car, and I plugged the scanner up when the engine light came on today.

Do you think I need to replace the sensor on the bank the code is showing?

My wideband shows in the low 11's to high 10's, basically gets richer as the revs go higher WOT.

Boost follows the same trend, starts at 6.4 psi and finishes in the 3's by the maximum rpm.

Its 90 degrees out, so air density could be effecting the boost, but I have never seen it drop as it revs.

New belt, new tensioner, new blower, new bypass valve.

I wouldn't think the codes I posted would be causing the boost / AF issue.
 

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#2 ·
Looks like O2 wiring reversed maybe?

 
owns 2006 Lotus Elise
#3 ·
Not the o2 sensor plug order. I did the swap with the car running, one unplugged it really started stumbling. Switched them and the stumbling stopped but the sporadic misfire, rough idle continues.

The guys at the shop checked everything from coils to wire harness, fuel pressure, injectors and vacuum leaks. All sensors, map, and lastly TPS changed. I'm stuck now as the Lotus shop couldn't find the culprit.

Aside from new camshaft, lifters, and supercharger, the only thing else they added was the BOE catch can, Ehuast and clam hinge.
 
#5 ·
owns 2006 Lotus Elise
#6 ·
It's not the same problem. A previous owner installed the supercharger and dinged up and chipped the surface of the Greddy intake where it bolts to the blower, which was what caused the leak. Also, the line from the bypass valve was disconnected and was only picking up boost signal to the guage from the valve only and not the manifold. This also prevented the bypass valve from operating.

The blower rollers were worn with chunks of Teflon coating missing and nearly every hose was routed incorrectly.

I have a completely new setup now, but even a Lotus shop such as the one who had my car for 8 months apparently isn't 100%.

So it appears I'm chasing not only a boost issue, but an idle, missfire issue as well as the 2 codes I pulled in this post. I thought when they put the new tps on right in front of me that it fixed the problem as the idle "seemed" to smooth out, so after an extra month of the guys chasing the missfire, I decided to take the car home.

$12k worth of parts and labor and here we are..
 
#8 ·
Wouldn't losing vacuum cause this since vacuum is what opens the bypass?
 
owns 2006 Lotus Elise
#9 ·
My last supercharger had the bypass valve disconnected from the intake manifold. It senses manifold pressure for the valve to operate. At negative boost pressure, the valve operates. Its default position without vacuum is full boost. Period. You do not lose boost pressure with a bypass valve unhooked or in its default position. Ever.

The only time you "can" is if it get jammed or stuck in it's bypass position.

You can bypass a bypass valve and still get all the power.