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Nitrous Oxide is safe

3.7K views 22 replies 14 participants last post by  Lotus F1  
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#5 ·
NMRJock said:
It is about as safe as a turbocharger when used properly. Heck, NA motors blow up when you push them well beyond their limits...
Can you please remove the propeller from your hat long enough to laugh at an obvious joke?
 
#6 ·
nitrous can be just as dangerous as a turbocharger, but it's better for your engine than turbos - not to mention way more torque than a turbo

it's cold which helps cool the engine

you're shooting cold highly compressed air (and fuel) into the engine vs hot air from a turbo

you can use nitrous with high compression whereas turbos could be dangerous with high compression

it's videos like this that give nitrous a voodoo sorta name with blowing stuff up.

Nitrous isn't flamable

industrial nitrous - the kind used in cars, won't make you pass out or start laughing, or get you high. It does smell bad though

if nitrous blows up an engine it's because the engine isn't strong enough to handle that big of a shot.

If it backfires like in the video and blows up the intake or manifold, it's because it was sprayed below 3000 rpms which let the fuel which is also sprayed along with the nitrous (for a wet shot) to puddle in the intake or manifold. It can catch fire and explode. Or it just plain wasn't installed right

That guy probably didn't have a window switch or just manually sprayed too early (gotta be above 3000rpm usually), otherwise there's not enough suction force to suck the nitrous and gas into the manifold.

Chances are that was not a direct port nitrous install and was ported in thru the manifold or intake tube.
 
#7 ·
Nitrous Oxide, or N2O is two atoms of nitrogen weakly bonded to an atom of oxygen. In the presence of heat, it breaks down to N2 (normal nitrogen gas) and a free oxygen atom.

This oxygen atom is what provides the potential for more horsepower. More fuel is added to take advantage of the oxygen atom, and thus creates a bigger combustion in the cylinder (or manifold in this case.)

Saying that N2O is not flammable is true, but in the same way that pure oxygen isn't flammable. It's an oxidizer, and as such needs to be handled as carefully as fuel.

ed
 
#9 ·
Evl said:
Actually, the only reason it won't get you high is because it smells to bad to want to get high from it.
If it has a smell, then it's not just nitrous. There must be some additive. Pure Nitrous dose not have a smell. I am curious what the additives are and how good they are for the engine. I bet they would leave a residue also.
 
#10 ·
scottyb said:
If it has a smell, then it's not just nitrous. There must be some additive. Pure Nitrous dose not have a smell. I am curious what the additives are and how good they are for the engine. I bet they would leave a residue also.
The smell is just a "perfume" to a) let you know if there is a leak, and b) to keep you from wanting to get a high from it. My understanding is that they are just trace quantities of something that our noses are very sensitive to.
 
#11 ·
scottyb said:
If it has a smell, then it's not just nitrous. There must be some additive.
A lot of gaseuos products that create a fire danger are artificially scented. Natural Gas is odorless, but the stuff they send you through the pipes has a nasty smell, that is an additive.
 
#13 ·
Terminus said:
A lot of gaseuos products that create a fire danger are artificially scented. Natural Gas is odorless, but the stuff they send you through the pipes has a nasty smell, that is an additive.
I don't know if this is urban legend or not, but I heard that at some point they put rotting meat smell in the natural gas so that they could find leaks in the pipes by looking for the flocks of vultures. :huh:
 
#15 ·
EdHaun>Nitrous Oxide, or N2O is two atoms of nitrogen weakly bonded to an atom of oxygen

You got me remembering a chem class way back when we went over the various ways people bond nitrogen and oxygen together and the industry uses for each. I remember the professor saying 'this one you use in a car and this other one you inhale to get high'. I suppose if you get the inhaling kind and the car kind mixed up the results could be very bad.

The list (thanks to google, my memory is rotten)...

Nitric Oxide (NO)
Nitrous Oxide (N20)
Nitrogen Dioxide (NO2)
Dinitrogen Trioxide (N2O3)
Dinitrogen Pentoxide (N2O5)
 
#19 · (Edited)
Here some more for you to pontificate...lol http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Z06

I had to immediate thoughts of this video...

1. Why we should all get a fire extinquisher (watch the hillbillies confusion in initially using one and then later spraying another person)

2. How I wanted to beat down the kids video taping this.
 
#20 ·
doma said:
You got me remembering a chem class way back when we went over the various ways people bond nitrogen and oxygen together and the industry uses for each. I remember the professor saying 'this one you use in a car and this other one you inhale to get high'. I suppose if you get the inhaling kind and the car kind mixed up the results could be very bad.
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but there is really honestly only one kind of nitrous oxide.. N2O. It's the very same stuff you inhale from the mask at the dentist's office, and denature to sell in blue bottles to ricers and racers.

If you have the right connections (and it doesn't take much), you can fill your car's NOS bottle with medical nitrous instead of industrial nitrous and it works just fine. The kids will say it's better for their engine because it doesn't have the stink in it, but they're just saying that because they have a bag of balloons back in the hotel room.

The very same gas is also bottled into little (8 gram?) disposable cylinders for use in the Whippets and ISI whipped-cream chargers you see at coffee carts and high school parties.
 
#21 ·
1FASTMX5 said:
Here some more for you to pontificate...lol http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Z06

I had to immediate thoughts of this video...

1. Why we should all get a fire extinquisher (watch the hillbillies confusion in initially using one and then later spraying another person)

2. How I wanted to beat down the kids video taping this.
They keep saying that their friend just beat the Vette. Some victory. :rolleyes:

Good that nobody got hurt.
 
#22 ·
uhh those 'hillbillies' were staying away from the z06 because it had a TNT nos accelerating the fire, the driver was out safely, cars can be replaced.

also the guy had the window switch bypassed and no fuel cutoff and the driver left the key in engine running well "running"
 
#23 · (Edited)
charliex said:
uhh those 'hillbillies' were staying away from the z06 because it had a TNT nos accelerating the fire, the driver was out safely, cars can be replaced.

also the guy had the window switch bypassed and no fuel cutoff and the driver left the key in engine running well "running"
Wow they had "Tri-nitro-toulene NOS"?? When they start making that? That must have been one explosively fast Z06 them hillbillies had there before it blew up. :D