My Rental Toyota Camry feels far more accurate & direct compare to my Evora.

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

My Rental Toyota Camry Steering feels far more accurate & direct compare to my Evora.

I had a Toyota Camry rental and drove it over 1,000 miles to SF over the weekend. The steering felted great compare to my Evora.

The Evora seems to follow lines or cracks on the road without getting any feedback. Steering seem loose. Dealer states that it is normal and because they just replaced a spacer on the steering not too long ago.

Have you experience this also on your Evora.

Thank You.

spiller · May 28, 2014

your evora follows cracks and lines on the road because it IS accurate.

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

Not too many cars compare to the Lotus steering, but I drove two cars with a loose type of steering and I will have to always try to keep it straight.

The other cars I drove had a tight and accurate feel steering. it didn't take much effort at all to keep it straight.

Roger · May 28, 2014

You own the wrong car.

Julian73 · May 28, 2014

Really, sell your Lotus now.

XHILR8N! · May 28, 2014

Our Tundra goes over curbs better than our Evora

KCZ · May 28, 2014

Jeremy Clarkson called the Evora steering "telepathic." You're clearly not thinking straight.

tbd_Evora · May 28, 2014

Maybe he's psychopathic!:shrug:

This isn't even worth commenting seriously!

phaphaphooey · May 28, 2014

That's it. I hereby move that this site be renamed to "Camrytalk"

ZeRoSL · May 28, 2014

The camry going in a straight line is because it does not follow the road and numbs over.

your Evora on the otherhand will give you all the feedback you need so YOU are in control

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

That's the thing. Yes, It gives me feedback oF the road. But not the steering feedback like the Elise would. Steering seems loose.

Dylan · May 28, 2014

I recently rented a Focus. I thought it had more pep than the Camry. Other opinions Focus versus Camry?

Also, I liked the floor mats a lot better. Thinking of trading in my Evora because floor mats are a key component of the overall driving experience. Actually, can't wait for Google driverless car. Man, that'll be great on the twisties!

cyow5 · May 28, 2014

Dylan said:
I recently rented a Focus. I thought it had more pep than the Camry. Other opinions Focus versus Camry?

Also, I liked the floor mats a lot better. Thinking of trading in my Evora because floor mats are a key component of the overall driving experience. Actually, can't wait for Google driverless car. Man, that'll be great on the twisties!

Does an autonomous car need cup holders? I mean, all the passengers can just hold their drinks. But then it could lose to the Camry purely on cup holder count...

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Ironmatt · May 28, 2014

Maybe the OP's car is broken or something? :shrug:

I mean he did say something about the dealer and a spacer on the steering...?

apk919 · May 28, 2014

I think the spacer between the steering wheel and the driver's seat needs replacement.

Just sayin'

Chhirowolf · May 28, 2014

secret_cha said:
My Rental Toyota Camry steering feels far more accurate & direct compare to my Evora.

I had a Toyota Camry rental and drove it over 1,000 miles to SF over the weekend. The steering felted great compare to my Evora.

The Evora seems to follow lines or cracks on the road. Steering seems loose compare to the camry. Dealer states that it is normal and because they just replaced a spacer on the steering not too long ago.

The Camry had great control regardless of lines, uneven pavements and wind.

Have you experience this also on your Evora.

Thank You.

sounds like there is something a miss in your car. Lotus is known for handling and road feel above all.
It would depend on what your looking for. I have driven the new Camry and I would best describe it as "floaty" much like my parents Buick LaSabre. Nice open road car, goes where you steer it. Responsive would be a descriptive word for the Camry.
Have you had the car on the track yet?
done any spirited driving?
I think in these cases you will see a difference.
Don't see many Camrys at the track, although I did see a 80s Toyota Tercel out there.

Of course that day I had my wife's Mini Cooper Clubman out on the track. the Tercel made me feel a bit less "brick like"

If everything checks out on your car it may be the Evora is not the car for you. Looking at a more GT car may be more your cup of tea. I know I was looking at Aston Martin Vantages before buying the Evora. A bit more tame but still very spirited and precise for its size and ride.

Good luck with your decision :up:

brgelise · May 28, 2014

This may be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard on this website!!
:shift::thwack

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V:

:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm
Maybe all the bling bling you added detracted from the accuracy of the ride.

Yea I'm being an A@@ but you obviously are wealthy without a clue about cars

Dylan · May 28, 2014

brgelise said:
This may be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard on this website!!

You must not remember this and associated posts: http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f68/omg-arashi-made-another-thread-year-luxury-4-play-105601/

dt34 · May 28, 2014

opcorn:

DominusFL · May 28, 2014

Your Camry isolated you from the road and you mistook that for precision. Your lotus connects you to the road. If you feel the Camry feels 'better', you are probably not a sports car person and should not own the Lotus. It will never satisfy you.

My Chevy Volt has stable steering, amazing road isolation, and decent road feedback. It feels like a rock when I am driving it (a rock bathed in luxury). Oh the other hand, my lotus reads every line, has even been picked up by a big cross wind in the turnpike (scary), and feels like a formula 1 car when I am driving it.

I'm selling the Volt.

rpolin · May 28, 2014

Secret_Cha: thank you for making me laugh so hard that it brought tears to my eyes. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

For the next big laugh, let's see someone compare the new Chevy Vette to the Chevy Volt as they must share some parts too and thus the Volt must drive the same as well if not better than the Vette.

Ok, I've got to go wipe the tears from my eyes now

Chhirowolf · May 28, 2014

Lets not be to hard on secret_cha

"I think what we have here is a failure to communicate"

Maybe secret_cha could give us more info. maybe his Evora has a suspension problem.
In the end, everyone is entitled to their own .02

dstevens · May 28, 2014

That's funny. I drove a camry last week and through it was the most disconnected and numb experience I have had driving in the last 20 years.

georgiadawgs98 · May 28, 2014

secret_cha said:
My Rental Toyota Camry steering feels far more accurate & direct compare to my Evora.

I had a Toyota Camry rental and drove it over 1,000 miles to SF over the weekend. The steering felted great compare to my Evora.

The Evora seems to follow lines or cracks on the road. Steering seems loose compare to the camry. Dealer states that it is normal and because they just replaced a spacer on the steering not too long ago.

The Camry had great control regardless of lines, uneven pavements and wind.

Have you experience this also on your Evora.

Thank You.

If you think that, then you also believe that the "Camry" engine in your Evora is as powerful, tuned and sophisticated as that rental.

C'mon Dude! :facepalm

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

I actually never thought about that but it seems like you had.

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

I don't mind getting slammed by the members. I was already expecting it. Anything negative about the car on the forum and this is what you'll get. I do have a lot of issues on my car and I thought my Range Rover was bad. Sorry if I hurt your feelings that I compared it to the rented Camry. I was surprise myself that the steering response was great but lacked feedback from the road. I just wanted to find a way to fix this issue or see if any of the members had issues like this. I guess not. But, thanks to John for the info. I will take it in and hopefully that will fix it.

So now, even if I hold the steering wheel straight, the car will steer to the right or left without the steering wheel moving and does not give any feedback. I will have to fight to keep it straight. Unlike my Elise, I know what the car is trying to do and will get a feedback on my steering when it does want to go to the right or left.

6i9 · May 28, 2014

Have you considered that the road quality is imperfect, not your Evora's steering? The reason why the Camry doesn't track along the imperfections is because it's hydraulic power steering absorbs some of the jerking motion as you go along. Similar to the shock absorbers on the Camry.

All that contributes to a comfortable ride but not an accurate road-holding feel. Maybe you can adjust your Evora's camber settings so it doesn't tramline as much

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=47

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

I will get that checked. my issues is only the steering and not the way the car feels or ride compared to other cars. I drove the Evora on a 400 miles road trip and the steering just didn't feel right. So that was why I ended up renting a car to San Fran and was surprise that the steering was so responsive compared to my Evora's steering right now.

Thanks for the link. it was helpful.

brgelise · May 28, 2014

Sorry man!

Maybe you do have a bad steering linkage or real bad toe problem. My car's wheel never flinches on any surface, roughness, potholes etc. Steering is more stable than the Jag due to more supple suspension.

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

Thank you for the info. I will make an appointment and take it in to see if they can check that.

Lancia · May 28, 2014

Not enough info.

I picked up a colorado car, not lotus but very sensitive, and was warned that they tuned for mountain road crowns.
I dialed that out before leaving.
Others have told me this is not true though.
The car handled horribly the first 150 miles out of town, so badly I nearly turned back.
Tramlining, twitchy, you name it.
Then smoothed out and was fine.

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

Thank you. My Evora and Elise is one of my best handling cars and the steering response was great also on both cars. Hopefully I can get it back to the way it was supposed to be. It got to the point where I didn't want to drive it on road trips like I used to because of that steering issue.

Me! · May 28, 2014

Must have been an SE. I have heard they are grounded to the ground!

I drove a new camry rental car a month ago and numb didn't begin to describe how vague the steering was! It only turned quickly due to the over boosted power steering.

Good news is that you could save a few bucks and trade the Evora in for a Camry. :shrug:

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

I was actually thinking about it. With the Evora in the shop every month it is not a bad idea.

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

Thanks to some of the members for your help and PM. I'll let you know the outcome after I get it service at the dealer.

apk919 · May 28, 2014

secret_cha said:
I had a Toyota Camry rental and drove it over 1,000 miles to SF over the weekend. The steering felted great compare to my Evora.

The Evora seems to follow lines or cracks on the road without getting any feedback. Steering seem loose. Dealer states that it is normal and because they just replaced a spacer on the steering not too long ago.

Have you experience this also on your Evora.

Thank You.

So wait a sec... your original post just says you think the rental drives better than your Evora. Later, you seem to imply that you want to get it back to the way it was supposed to be.

Have you ever been satisfied with the steering? Have you driven a different Evora to compare?

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

I compared it to the rental Camry because it is the newer lower model that I have recently driven. I didn't want to compare it to my cars because the steering response on my other cars are wonderful but not as great as the Evora was.

The Evora's steering has always been great, I mean the best that I have driven out of all my cars. I was happy.

The way the Evora's steering is now seems loose and disconnected when it comes to control. I still get the road's feedback but not the steering feedback and the only feedback I am getting is when I feel the whole car moving to the right or left and not from the steering wheel until I try to correct it. In high speed driving it doesn't feel stable also. With the Elise I can make the car move how I would like and know when the car wants to move left or right and I will have instant feedback. The Evora, will move left or right with little or no feedback.

I test drove another Evora but not able to take it on freeways etc. or to the roads that I am familiar with so that I can compare.

The dealer states that nothing is wrong with it but I just wanted an idea if you guys had any issues like this. Maybe this is normal?

Allan Gibbs · May 28, 2014

secret_cha said:
I had a Toyota Camry rental and drove it over 1,000 miles to SF over the weekend. The steering felted great compare to my Evora.

The Evora seems to follow lines or cracks on the road without getting any feedback. Steering seem loose. Dealer states that it is normal and because they just replaced a spacer on the steering not too long ago.

Have you experience this also on your Evora.

Thank You.

That's strange because they should drive identical since they're using the same engine.

Okay, now that I got that out of the way, have you checked your tire pressure? Or, what tire pressure are you using? You could also check your alignment.

My Evora will follow groves on the pavement but I feel it in the steering wheel. Pretty much the same as my old Elise - actually the Evora and Elise have the same "Lotus" feel except the Evora doesn't skip over bumps on bad roads.

As for the spacer, was your steering wheel making a "clicking" sound when you turned it. I've had the spacer replaced in both my n/a and S Evora but have not change in the handling characteristics. Just kind of annoying to have it happen on both cars.

secret_cha · May 28, 2014

Allan Gibbs said:
That's strange because they should drive identical since they're using the same engine.

.

This Camry was only a 4cyc. I wished they had the v6 one to rent so I can try their sport mode.

My Evora PSI is set to factory and was checked by the dealer. My tires are the same as the factory tires and I am on the 2nd set.

My Evora follow the groves on the payment but seems like something is loose. Esp on highways/freeways, I will not get a feedback in my steering when it want to move to the left or right. It is almost like driving a SUV on a windy highway. I will get feedback if I want to move the car left or right and from the road. Seems like there is a little freeplay in the steering.

My steering is making a clicking noise which I notified to the dealer. Nothing was done because they said that they replaced a spacer already. Is the clicking noise normal?

Thank You.

My Rental Toyota Camry feels far more accurate & direct compare to my Evora.

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