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2003 Esprit

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4.7K views 27 replies 9 participants last post by  DailyDriver  
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$42,000.00

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Manteca, California

Offering for sale a 2003 Lotus Esprit. $42,000.00

Selling solely because of age related health issues preventing me from doing further the work on the car.

VIN: SCCDC08213HA10459

105,790 miles. Almost all of them by me. Maintenance by me. Full and complete service documentation from new with all receipts and copious notes.

I purchased the car as the second owner from a friend of mine who went with me when I ordered my 2005 Elise, he saw this car and bought it when new from Silicon Valley Auto Group in Los Gatos, CA in 2004.

Car was last driven on the road in July of 2023 and the California registration expired that same month. It has been garaged since then.

Car is not currently registered because of a single stored trouble code, P0442 – Evaporative Emission Control System – Leak Detected. No Check Engine lights are illuminated but the code is there. Because of the stored code it will not pass California Emissions Test.

Car runs great and everything functions. Car is started occasionally and backed out of garage and driven back in. Air conditioning blows cold.

Car needs front brakes replaced. Brakes are AP Racing brakes as stock. Sale includes 2 brand new front rotors from PNM Engineering and new front brake pads.

Sale also includes all of the following Lotus special tools for the Type 918 engine and Service Notes;

T000T1336F - Locking Cap, camshaft
T000T1337F - Location Pin, camshaft timing (4 ea.)
T000T1345F - Tolerance Pin, camshaft timing (4 ea.)
T000T1339F - Crankshaft Pin - camshaft timing
T000T1249F - Flywheel Locking Tool (transmission removed)
T000T1357F - Cylinder Liner Extractor Kit
T000T1360F - Peg Drive Adaptor, tensioner hub
T000T1391/1 - Timing Disc
A082T4016F - Tool Kit

K082T0327J - Service Notes
M082T0325J - Service Parts List
L082T0327J - Section EMM - Esprit V8 Engine Management
M082T0377J - Section JG - Esprit V8 Brakes
J082T0327J - Sections WA and WC - S.I.R. Esprit

Sale also includes;

Both tops - Glass and Fiberglass
Storage Bag - for top not in use
Wind Deflector - for use when no top is in place

Alternator has been replaced with a 140 amp unit from JAE.

Starter is the hi-torque upgrade from JAE.

Tires: Fronts are from 2015 and rears are from 2016
Belts: Blue Gates - Installed September 2017 at 92,261 miles

If a Pre-Purchase Inspection is desired then there is a 4-Post Lift available in my side yard.

The car needs a wash and probably could use a detailing.

Minor cosmetic issues, like minor body damage above right front wheel and driver seat bolster wear from getting in and out.

Also includes a pair of after-market catalytic converters. They work fine with no error codes but are not CARB legal in California.

The car has never been in an accident, had any body repair and no paint work done. The one photo shows the total extent of damage and that is to the wheel flare on the right front. Minor damage and should be repairable. The car still has the original Lotus paint protection film as installed when purchased and there are no rock chips that I am aware of.

The battery is getting old and will need replacing soon. I plan to document the one error code before changing it because disconnecting the battery will clear the one code and reset all the readiness flags.
 
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#3 ·
Yes many more photos would be appreciated.
Some of the undercarriage would be great too since you have a 4 post lift.
And if you can share the VIN plate and date codes on the tires.
Since you have the tools for doing the cam belts, do you know date and at what miles they were done last ?
Kindest regards.
 
#5 ·
I will keep you in mind. I love all Esprit......
 
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#7 ·
I can assure you. If my health were just a bit better, like so as to assume the "Lotus" position required to track down the vacuum leak, I would not be selling. This has been and will be a great driver's car. It doesn't show it's mileage in appearance and will never lose it's style.
 
#11 ·
Thanks for the thoughts. Like Pink Floyd said: "The memories of a man in his old age are the deeds of a man in his prime." Well, I had a couple of Lotus automobiles in my prime so just having a couple in the garage every time I walk out there still brings good memories. It may suck to see an empty spot there, even though the Elise still looks pretty good too, or it may sit there till I'm gone. Would be nice to see someone take it that wants to go for the 200,000 mile mark, though.
 
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Yeah, and it won't take much of a "mechanic"... just someone that is a good amateur and can follow the enclosed instructions. Since I just walked by a while ago and noticed it has not been driven or registered since July 2003, just started and ran for a while occasionally, then routine stuff should be done like fluids and stuff along with the tires that are visibly fine but dated. Pretty much everything is included to put it back on the road mechanically. That and a detailing and you have a car worth much more.

One that is built 120 cars after this one, that has been modified and wrapped, just sold for $77,777.00 on Bring-a-Trailer a few minutes ago.
 
#17 ·
I have a copy of the book "Passion for Speed" that is autographed by Nick Mason. It comes with a CD recording of the engines sounds from each of the cars in the book. A fun trinket.

I also have a copy of a CD recording of the show "Front Row Center" that is a very early recording. It is a copy that was sent to radio stations to play and they were supposed to send it back. This one didn't make it. It says on the CD that it is not to be released and must be returned.

To make this a Lotus related post... my eldest son, the proud owner of a 1990 Esprit SE, went to his first rock concert at the age of 11 years. Pink Floyd at the Oakland Coliseum. "Memories of a man in his old age!" (In fact the same son, now living in Chicago, told me the last time we spoke that he was surprised to hear the song "Free Four" on the local radio station there just last month.)
 
#18 ·
I saw them at Kennedy Center in '72 IIRC. A friend had 3-4 tickets in press box from his Dad the political cartoonist for Washington Post and nobody else showed for the other seats. Half of my PF Albums are half speed Japanese Master disk pressings.
 
owns 2006 Lotus Elise
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The first time I saw Floyd was at their one and only appearance at the San Francisco Cow Palace. I have a bootleg CD of that show called Riding the Cow. April 1975. Seen them over a dozen times since.
 
#21 ·
Since you have an Elige how do they compare in driving, steering feel and shifting quality? I've never driven one, and see they weigh a little over 3,000 lbs, so I presume they drive more like the original Evora which I believe has around 350HP too and a bit slower verses a Evora GT with a little over 400HP.

They probably sound great with the V8. How is the turbo lag? I owned a 930 turbo for 13 years, I believe the lag has to be way less than one of those?

Any oil leaks? The only Lotus cars I've driven have been Eliges, and my dad's Europa in the early 80's. My memory tells me that Europa shifted better versus my Exige and was every bit as good in the corners, but that was over 40 years ago, so I could be remembering wrongly.
 
#22 ·
Having the Europa, Esprit 4-cylinder, Esprit V8 and the Elise and having put many miles on each over many years I can say they are each quite unique but each having a definitive Lotus feel and DNA.

The Europa has the most visceral and pure driving experience. The Twin Cam engine with the 5-speed manual was a pure driving car. The shift linkage was pretty primitive but you had to get used to it... it would not get used to you. Once you got used to the car it was a pure dream on twisty mountain roads. Not much of a long cruising GT car but a pure sports car that can be driven on the highway if you were so inclined. I was. :)

The 4-cylinder and V8 Esprit are both excellent driver cars. Surprisingly similar in performance over all on most roads. The 4-cylinder does have some turbo lag but not much. The V8 much less. Neither of them could match the performance of the Europa on very twisty and narrow mountain roads but could hold their own against most anything else. Both of the Esprit really get exciting when the RPM exceed anything above 3,000. Just shut up, pay very close attention and hold on. A real rocket ship ride. The V8 has many refinements in the engineering and inside the cabin with more room for the driver and passenger. The AP brake system on the V8 is phenomenal! After putting the upgraded Bilstein suspension on the 4-cylinder I actually preferred the general ride quality of it over the V8. Not by much but the re-engineered system by Lotus in collaboration with Bilstein worked wonders. I had to do a lot of fiddling with the shift linkage on the 4-cylinder but once I got it dialed in it is good. If it isn't just right it is pretty sucky. The V8 has a much better shift linkage. On a track matchup I would probably lean toward the V8.

The Elise is another animal all together. Probably closer to the Europa because of size and weight. A whole lot of improvement in technology from 1974 to 2005, for sure, but it is amazing how close they are, considering. The Elise, with the sport package, is a bit of a harsher ride than the Europa when driving on the public roads and a lot harsher than either of the Esprit.

For spirited driving on narrow twisty mountain roads I prefer the Europa or the Elise. For general use and cruising down the road or highway the Esprit seems more pleasurable. Asking which is better is akin to asking any parent to pick their favorite child in front of the children and the entire family. The reason I really like driving any Lotus is because Lotus seems to have the ability to tune the handling and suspension in a way I have never found in any other car I have driven. As the old Lotus Esprit ad I have hanging on the wall says - "It doesn't compete with other cars. I competes with sex."

Oil leaks? Elise - none. V8 and 1990 Esprit - not more than a few drops. Europa - from time to time but manageable with proper maintenance.

Cheers and enjoy the ride...

Dennis L. Fleming
 
#23 · (Edited)
For S&Gs I just did a Google search for the number of 2003 Esprit imported to the US. The AI Answer was;

"A total of 89 2003 Lotus Esprit V8 models were imported to the US. This number includes the "Final Edition" models, which were primarily designated for the US market, according to the Lotus Forums. The 2003 model year Esprit V8s were produced from serial number 0459 to 0580, spanning from October 2002 to October 2003."

That is interesting because mine is the serial number 0459. It would appear from this that this is the very first 2003 model imported!

Edit: I should stand to correct myself. In stead of saying it is the "first 2003 model imported" I should probably say, more accurately, "first 2003 model made for import". Subtle difference but I don't know when they actually shipped which ones or when the arrived.
 
#24 ·
Thank you very much for your thorough, well thought out response. I really enjoyed reading that. Sounds like I would enjoy it, but I’m hesitant for the same reason as for an Evora, Cayman GT4, or Emira. What I love most is the curvy road drive, evidently in lightweight cars.

I almost bought a yellow Europa on BAT in the past month. I’ve read, Gordon Murray said, he keeps an Elan around to remember how a proper car should drive. But, I don’t seem to see many Elans popping up for sale.
 
#25 ·
Have you tried posting this on Facebook Marketplace? For some odd reason, I never had any success selling cars on forums over the last 8 years, but have had great success selling it on FB marketplace where there are more exposure to the newer crowd. The car is beautiful, I've only seen one other FE example of this car and that was back in 2017 at my friend's barn out in rural mississippi during one of our rally drives. Purely a collector as he doesn't want to put a ton of miles on it.
 
#26 ·
The only place I have offered the car, so far, is here. I am honestly not too motivated to sell it because of the great car it has been and how great it is just to see it every time I go to the garage. However, reality does suck! I am getting older and due to health issues cannot put it back on the road myself like I used to. I have done all of the service and maintenance work myself in the past but not for the future. As I see it just sitting I don't really want it to just rot away where it is and was hoping someone would see the value of getting it back on the road. Some people have messaged about the miles and the car not having the value because of that. To that I say the car doesn't show its age and currently it can be put back on the road pretty economically and enjoyed for another 100,000 miles without having to worry about depreciation.

I firmly believe the car is worth the price and especially when you consider all the service stuff that comes with it. I was hoping someone that is a true Lotus enthusiast, as one would hope to find on this forum, would like to carry this car forward.

Before too long I will be checking with my oldest son in Chicago to see if he is interested in taking on the vehicle. He has a father-in-law in Pennsylvania who is into older British cars that may want to make a project out of it between the two of them. If he doesn't want to take it on then I will consider other means of disposal. Some people seem to think I should be willing to, in effect, give it away... but that ain't gonna happen. It will rot away where it is till I die first and then "I don't give a damn"... as Rhet Buttler would say.
 
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