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Remove Front Passenger Seat - Need Help

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16K views 23 replies 20 participants last post by  rosscarlson  
#1 ·
Ok, so perhaps I'm dumb.

Trying to remove the front passenger seat to be able to get at the rear speaker behind it.

I know there are 4 Allen bolts holding the rails in, but to me, it's impossible to get at those bolts with a standard tool.

I then see that there are two allen bolts holding the seat to the frame, but again, looks too hard to remove those (lumbar pump on right side in the way).

Any advice and/or specific tools I'd need?

Perhaps I'm missing something and it's obvious, but I'm at a loss.

Oh and yes, why the hell didn't the put a sliding rail in for the passenger seat? Yeah yeah, weight and all that, but I think practically outweighs saving a pound. Wouldn't it be nice to able to slide the passenger seat forward 6-8" when in the car by yourself to be able to fit some things back there?

Perhaps someone can come up with a mod? Different thread for a different day.
 
#3 ·
Yes you need a swivel adapter to do this
Also, PLEASE PLEASE be careful when reinstalling!

For some reason the passenger seat is difficult to get the threads restarted without stripping. You may think you have it started, but the soft aluminum female threads strip. I know this because I did it to mine. I had to retap the threads.
 
#10 ·
Might want to consider the Sector sys.6.pack.

sys.6.pack - Seat Security and 6 Point Harness Attachment for your Lotus Elise and Exige - Sector111

If you are removing the seat it would be the time. This set up not only attaches the seat to the cat a lot more securely, but removing and especially reinstalling the seats is a lot easier. That passenger right rear bolt is a real pain. Hard to get in or out, very easy to strip. The sys.pack setup passes a bolt through the seat rail and chassis, placing a nyloc nut on the other side.
 
#11 · (Edited)
#14 ·
I am going to offer another piece of advice...

After you loosen the 4 bolts, be careful when you start moving the seat. Especially the inboard side where the rail touches the center console and you might end up scrapping paint or leather trim off.
 
#18 ·
I don't think so.
 
#19 ·
I haven't tried this one yet, but a great tool to use is a "wobble extension" They fit into a regular socket, but allow the extension to be at an angle to the socket. I've been using them for years. Here's some from Harbor Freight (I think Sears makes a version, and you can find them at lots of auto parts stores):
9 Piece Wobble Extension Set
 
#23 ·
The right rear bolt on the (USA-spec) passenger seat is as others have said a bitch. There is a perfectly-accessible hole in the base frame that could be used by drilling and tapping a new hole in the tub. I didn't have to go there.

The ball-end driver would have been useful (I only have such things in SAE sizes), but I got by with a 3/8" drive bit powered by a wobble bar. Having the angle drive at the cap screw head would have been better. The wobble bar was really crowding the inflator bulb.
 
#24 ·
and especially reinstalling the seats is a lot easier
I have to respectfully disagree here Xhilr8n, I think the Sys.Pack makes it MUCH harder, well, impossible to do alone. Now that the bolts go all the way through you have to grab the nut from the top and the allen headed bolt from the bottom. The only way I could do that was to jam a pair of vice grips on the bolt and try to start it from the bottom. Took me about 2 hours to get one of them in (when a friend stopped by the second took all of 3 minutes).

That being said I'm glad I did the Sys.Pack as the attachment points are so much stronger now. If (when) I hit something the seat is definitely staying in place...